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List:       fedora-devel-list
Subject:    Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants
From:       "Tom Seewald" <tseewald () gmail ! com>
Date:       2020-07-12 23:33:12
Message-ID: 20200712233312.22027.60183 () mailman01 ! iad2 ! fedoraproject ! org
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> What changes?

I don't see a reason for this level of snark, in your next paragraph you described \
the changes I'm talking about.

> Discussion is happening upstream to determine the best location for
> such optimization to happen.

I'm glad work is happening upstream and I hope it goes smoothly, but I don't see how \
there is a guarantee that everything will be done in time for Fedora 33. I'm not \
implying people aren't working on it, I'm suggesting that reality often doesn't go \
exactly as envisioned.

> (open)SUSE has been doing this for six years, I don't think it's
> correct to suggest these complexities aren't well understood, or that
> it's possible they won't happen for Fedora 33.

On one hand you're saying that all complexities are well understood and that it is \
incorrect of me to suggest that any of those changes could miss F33's release date. \
Yet on the other hand you mention that openSUSE has used btrfs by default for 6 \
years, so then why haven't these changes landed upstream years ago? Further, you \
stated that for databases it's not yet clear when/if nodatacow is a performance win. \
This suggests that it is not outlandish to say there are remaining complexities. \
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