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Subject:    Re: Proposal: Revise FESCo voting policy
From:       drago01 <drago01 () gmail ! com>
Date:       2020-05-18 5:51:11
Message-ID: CAMqY-FcuyCEUZzW6NujXDDjDvf28Z=7XanRH=diM7pf97X1kFg () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Thursday, May 14, 2020, Jared K. Smith <jsmith@fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 10:57 AM Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@chello.at>
> wrote:
>
>> Abstaining means "I don't care", not "I feel uncomfortable with this
>> change".
>>
>
> I'm going to disagree with you here, specifically with regards to the "I
> don't care" piece.  From my time in FESCo, and as the FPL before that -- I
> can never remember a time when someone abstained because they didn't care.
> I remember people abstaining because they didn't feel it was appropriate
> for them to vote on their own ticket, or they felt uncomfortable for
> whatever reason, but never simply because they didn't care.
>
> Please remember that FESCo members can vote either "+1" or "0" or "-1" for
> a particular change.  I would think voting "0" would be more appropriate
> for a "I don't care" vote.  But I still don't see an "I don't care" vote as
> a reason to abstain.
>

In the end voting 0 means "I don't care" - even more so with this proposal
as you are taking yourself out of the decision process. If you have an
opinion in either direction then vote -1 or +1.

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<br><br>On Thursday, May 14, 2020, Jared K. Smith &lt;<a \
href="mailto:jsmith@fedoraproject.org">jsmith@fedoraproject.org</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, May 14, 2020 at \
10:57 AM Kevin Kofler &lt;<a href="mailto:kevin.kofler@chello.at" \
target="_blank">kevin.kofler@chello.at</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div \
class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Abstaining means \
&quot;I don&#39;t care&quot;, not &quot;I feel uncomfortable with this <br> \
change&quot;.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m going to disagree with you \
here, specifically with regards to the &quot;I don&#39;t care&quot; piece.   From my \
time in FESCo, and as the FPL before that -- I can never remember a time when someone \
abstained because they didn&#39;t care.   I remember people abstaining because they \
didn&#39;t feel it was appropriate for them to vote on their own ticket, or they felt \
uncomfortable for whatever reason, but never simply because they didn&#39;t care.  \
</div><div><br></div><div>Please remember that FESCo members can vote either \
&quot;+1&quot; or &quot;0&quot; or &quot;-1&quot; for a particular change.   I would \
think voting &quot;0&quot; would be more appropriate for a &quot;I don&#39;t \
care&quot; vote.   But I still don&#39;t see an &quot;I don&#39;t care&quot; vote as \
a reason to abstain.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>In the end \
voting 0 means &quot;I don&#39;t care&quot; - even more so with this proposal as you \
are taking yourself out of the decision process. If you have an opinion in either \
direction then vote -1 or +1.    </div>


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