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List:       fedora-devel-list
Subject:    Re: Proposal: Revise FESCo voting policy
From:       Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler () chello ! at>
Date:       2020-05-17 13:37:00
Message-ID: r9relt$9h8$1 () ciao ! gmane ! io
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Neal Gompa wrote:
> I don't think this necessarily is as strong conflict of interest as
> you'd expect. Most folks are involved in multiple teams (WGs, SIGs,
> etc.) and those "conflicts" naturally exist. I think the only *real*
> conflict would be a change owner voting *for* their change. For
> example, If this were such a thing to worry about, I'd be unable to
> vote for any change proposal, due to the number of groups I *actually*
> do work in.

Well, I do see a strong correlation between changes being driven by large 
influential workgroups (e.g., Workstation or Modularity) and them being 
accepted by FESCo, even over predominantly negative community feedback.

> But again, I don't necessarily see them being employed by Red Hat as a
> negative there. It *does* induce some bias, for sure, but in general,
> this is a lot less pronounced than many folks would expect. And I'm
> speaking as someone who tends to run into them more often than not. ;)
> 
> Today, there are a mix of Red Hat and non-Red Hat folks, and it seems
> to work out fine. And even Red Hatters have pushed back against other
> Red Hat-driven changes. So I think this fear is mostly unfounded.

Well, I also see a strong correlation between changes being driven, 
requested and/or needed by RHEL and them being accepted by FESCo, even over 
predominantly negative community feedback.

I am aware that correlation does not imply causation, but it does make me 
wonder where those correlations come from, and in particular, whether 
conflicts of interest play a decisive role or whether there is some other 
mechanism in play here.

        Kevin Kofler
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