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Subject:    Re: What would it take to drop release and changelog from our spec files? (and do we want to?)
From:       Nicolas Mailhot via devel <devel () lists ! fedoraproject ! org>
Date:       2020-01-10 20:18:35
Message-ID: d3caaf8672912635849b3a92bd5c652b1be6da4e.camel () laposte ! net
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Le vendredi 10 janvier 2020 à 20:53 +0100, Fabio Valentini a écrit :
> 
> You can never expect our tooling to do "magic" (TM) and work "just
> right", no matter which Versions and Releases and Epochs of packages
> are available from third-party repos and coprs. 

Yes, sure, but the current way we manage releases accomodate those
worklows.

For example:
1. I hit a fontconfig bug while preparing the new font packaging
guidelines,
2. Akira kindly fixed the problem upstream,
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig/issues/185
3. it was trivial to build a package matching the Fedora fontconfig
with just the fix added in copr, without breaking the release thread
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/nim/fonts-rpm-macros/build/1126851/

(it exists just for me in my copre because general availability was not
required to advance on the guidelines proposal; general availability
would have required a push to rawhide and a support commitment by
Akira)

And, it will all converge once FPC finishes its review, Akira releases
fontconfig upstream, and the result is rebuilt for Fedora. Had I waited
for Akira to wrap up an upstream release and build the result rawhide-
side the FPC submission would have been pushed back for months (and
then it would have delayed other Fedora changes, it's a cascading
effect).

The non-linear progression permitted by current manual release setting
allows parallelizing work and getting things done a lot faster within
the project. I don't see how to manage this with the autogeneration
proposal

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot
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