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Subject:    Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories
From:       drago01 <drago01 () gmail ! com>
Date:       2019-09-11 6:48:37
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On Wednesday, September 11, 2019, John M. Harris Jr. <johnmh@splentity.com>
wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 12:41:14 PM MST Przemek Klosowski via devel
> wrote:
> > On 9/10/19 7:55 AM, vvs vvs wrote:
> >
> > > Did I? I thought that I've said that I'm using x86_64 kernel right now
> and
> > > that I have my memory stretched to the limits already.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > But yes, I've experimented with x86_64 userland some time ago, I don't
> > > remember exact numbers but I think that I've lost 100-200 MB of memory.
> > > And I have not much time to experiment every time something have
> > > changed.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > You are right that I can reduce memory footprint by carefully tuning my
> > > system. But that's what I've already did and Fedora breaks it just too
> > > often. I'm used to work without GNOME on my other computer that have
> only
> > > 32-bit CPU. But it started to be very painful to upgrade to newer
> Fedora
> > > releases. So, when I've got 64-bit computer I've just went with the
> flow
> > > and don't customize parts I'm not really interested in. I want to spend
> > > on it as little time as possible. Going for my own Linux from scratch
> is
> > > just not viable.
> >
> > Wait---so you are using 32-bit Gnome on a 64-bit capable CPU running
> > 64-bit kernel? If the reason is to save 200MB of memory, you should
> > definitely try one of the memory-thrifty desktop environments like xfce.
> >
> > You also said that you're running a memory-hungry non-Fedora
> > application, which you presumably compile yourself.
> >
> > Therefore, it looks to me that you should try a 64-bit Fedora with a
> > memory-saving xfce, install a 32-bit GCC toolchain and compile your app
> > in 32-bit mode.
>
> Compiling his app as 32 bit would require 32 bit repositories for the
> libraries he plans on linking.


Multilib is still supported so libraries are present in the repositories.



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> John Harris
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<br><br>On Wednesday, September 11, 2019, John M. Harris Jr. &lt;<a \
href="mailto:johnmh@splentity.com">johnmh@splentity.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 12:41:14 PM MST Przemek \
Klosowski via devel <br> wrote:<br>
&gt; On 9/10/19 7:55 AM, vvs vvs wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Did I? I thought that I&#39;ve said that I&#39;m using x86_64 kernel right \
now and<br> &gt; &gt; that I have my memory stretched to the limits already.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; But yes, I&#39;ve experimented with x86_64 userland some time ago, I \
don&#39;t<br> &gt; &gt; remember exact numbers but I think that I&#39;ve lost 100-200 \
MB of memory.<br> &gt; &gt; And I have not much time to experiment every time \
something have<br> &gt; &gt; changed.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; You are right that I can reduce memory footprint by carefully tuning my<br>
&gt; &gt; system. But that&#39;s what I&#39;ve already did and Fedora breaks it just \
too<br> &gt; &gt; often. I&#39;m used to work without GNOME on my other computer that \
have only<br> &gt; &gt; 32-bit CPU. But it started to be very painful to upgrade to \
newer Fedora<br> &gt; &gt; releases. So, when I&#39;ve got 64-bit computer I&#39;ve \
just went with the flow<br> &gt; &gt; and don&#39;t customize parts I&#39;m not \
really interested in. I want to spend<br> &gt; &gt; on it as little time as possible. \
Going for my own Linux from scratch is<br> &gt; &gt; just not viable.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Wait---so you are using 32-bit Gnome on a 64-bit capable CPU running <br>
&gt; 64-bit kernel? If the reason is to save 200MB of memory, you should <br>
&gt; definitely try one of the memory-thrifty desktop environments like xfce.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; You also said that you&#39;re running a memory-hungry non-Fedora <br>
&gt; application, which you presumably compile yourself.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Therefore, it looks to me that you should try a 64-bit Fedora with a <br>
&gt; memory-saving xfce, install a 32-bit GCC toolchain and compile your app <br>
&gt; in 32-bit mode.<br>
<br>
Compiling his app as 32 bit would require 32 bit repositories for the <br>
libraries he plans on linking.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Multilib is still \
supported so libraries are present in the repositories.</div><div><br></div><div>  \
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
                solid;padding-left:1ex">
- -<br>
John Harris<br>
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