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Subject: Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories
From: drago01 <drago01 () gmail ! com>
Date: 2019-09-11 6:48:37
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On Wednesday, September 11, 2019, John M. Harris Jr. <johnmh@splentity.com>
wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 12:41:14 PM MST Przemek Klosowski via devel
> wrote:
> > On 9/10/19 7:55 AM, vvs vvs wrote:
> >
> > > Did I? I thought that I've said that I'm using x86_64 kernel right now
> and
> > > that I have my memory stretched to the limits already.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > But yes, I've experimented with x86_64 userland some time ago, I don't
> > > remember exact numbers but I think that I've lost 100-200 MB of memory.
> > > And I have not much time to experiment every time something have
> > > changed.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > You are right that I can reduce memory footprint by carefully tuning my
> > > system. But that's what I've already did and Fedora breaks it just too
> > > often. I'm used to work without GNOME on my other computer that have
> only
> > > 32-bit CPU. But it started to be very painful to upgrade to newer
> Fedora
> > > releases. So, when I've got 64-bit computer I've just went with the
> flow
> > > and don't customize parts I'm not really interested in. I want to spend
> > > on it as little time as possible. Going for my own Linux from scratch
> is
> > > just not viable.
> >
> > Wait---so you are using 32-bit Gnome on a 64-bit capable CPU running
> > 64-bit kernel? If the reason is to save 200MB of memory, you should
> > definitely try one of the memory-thrifty desktop environments like xfce.
> >
> > You also said that you're running a memory-hungry non-Fedora
> > application, which you presumably compile yourself.
> >
> > Therefore, it looks to me that you should try a 64-bit Fedora with a
> > memory-saving xfce, install a 32-bit GCC toolchain and compile your app
> > in 32-bit mode.
>
> Compiling his app as 32 bit would require 32 bit repositories for the
> libraries he plans on linking.
Multilib is still supported so libraries are present in the repositories.
> - -
> John Harris
>
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<br><br>On Wednesday, September 11, 2019, John M. Harris Jr. <<a \
href="mailto:johnmh@splentity.com">johnmh@splentity.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 12:41:14 PM MST Przemek \
Klosowski via devel <br> wrote:<br>
> On 9/10/19 7:55 AM, vvs vvs wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > Did I? I thought that I've said that I'm using x86_64 kernel right \
now and<br> > > that I have my memory stretched to the limits already.<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > But yes, I've experimented with x86_64 userland some time ago, I \
don't<br> > > remember exact numbers but I think that I've lost 100-200 \
MB of memory.<br> > > And I have not much time to experiment every time \
something have<br> > > changed.<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > You are right that I can reduce memory footprint by carefully tuning my<br>
> > system. But that's what I've already did and Fedora breaks it just \
too<br> > > often. I'm used to work without GNOME on my other computer that \
have only<br> > > 32-bit CPU. But it started to be very painful to upgrade to \
newer Fedora<br> > > releases. So, when I've got 64-bit computer I've \
just went with the flow<br> > > and don't customize parts I'm not \
really interested in. I want to spend<br> > > on it as little time as possible. \
Going for my own Linux from scratch is<br> > > just not viable.<br>
> <br>
> Wait---so you are using 32-bit Gnome on a 64-bit capable CPU running <br>
> 64-bit kernel? If the reason is to save 200MB of memory, you should <br>
> definitely try one of the memory-thrifty desktop environments like xfce.<br>
> <br>
> You also said that you're running a memory-hungry non-Fedora <br>
> application, which you presumably compile yourself.<br>
> <br>
> Therefore, it looks to me that you should try a 64-bit Fedora with a <br>
> memory-saving xfce, install a 32-bit GCC toolchain and compile your app <br>
> in 32-bit mode.<br>
<br>
Compiling his app as 32 bit would require 32 bit repositories for the <br>
libraries he plans on linking.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Multilib is still \
supported so libraries are present in the repositories.</div><div><br></div><div> \
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">
- -<br>
John Harris<br>
<br>
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