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List:       fedora-devel-list
Subject:    Re: Possibly non-responsive maintainer: hguemar
From:       Vít_Ondruch <vondruch () redhat ! com>
Date:       2018-09-17 8:20:33
Message-ID: 85da1118-8edc-4acc-8b0c-61a7feeae590 () redhat ! com
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Dne 17.9.2018 v 09:48 Haïkel napsal(a):
> Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 à 08:12, Mattia Verga <mattia.verga@yandex.com> a écrit :
> > > Le dim. 16 sept. 2018 Ã  11:27, Fabio Valentini <decathorpe(a)gmail.com&gt; a \
> > > écrit : 
> > > 
> > > The policy mention that you have to try contacting the maintainer
> > > *first*, you never sent me an email or pinged me on irc.
> > > I don't like this kind of passive-aggressive approach, had you
> > > contacted me, we would have sorted this out quickly, co-maintainers
> > > are welcome.
> > > 
> > > One more thing, when you want to contact someone in the project =>
> > > <username&gt;(a)fedoraproject.org should always work.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > H.
> > > 
> > Trying to contact the maintainer directly before opening the unresponsive \
> > maintainer policy and reply to bugs via email is right, BUT I would expect \
> > bugzilla to be the first contact point and so maintainers should respond in \
> > bugzilla first, not via email. 
> > Sometimes a "bug aknowledge, but it's in low priority list" message can keep \
> > users calm... 
> > Mattia
> (On the policy)
> 
> Yes, first attempt should be through bugzilla, but we are human
> beings, so it happens that a direct ping is necessary.

Haïkel, you might be upset that somebody calls you "Possibly
non-responsive", but frankly, if the message from Fabio was
passive-aggressive to you, then I am not sure you did better job then he
did (especially in the "we are human beings" context).

Vít


> The policy may be subject to interpretation, but it hints that this
> process should be used when you *cannot* reach the maintainer.
> If you have time to mail the list, you have time to mail the person first.
> 
> "and asks if anyone knows how to contact the maintainer." => It's
> crystal clear (to me at least) that it assumes that you could not
> reach the
> maintainer through the email registered in FAS (we used to have
> regular pings from the system to verify that users are still
> monitoring these).
> 
> If you want access to a package that I happen to be a "Point of
> Contact" (which is semantically different that owner and it's on
> purpose), just ask.
> Nobody owns anything in Fedora.
> 
> Regards,
> H.
> 
> 
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