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Subject:    Re: DNF vs YUM, $pkg, $pkg-mpi, $pkg-openmpi having same provides
From:       Radek Holy <rholy () redhat ! com>
Date:       2015-06-12 8:28:30
Message-ID: 1261771877.14695014.1434097710461.JavaMail.zimbra () redhat ! com
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> From: "Sandro Mani" <manisandro@gmail.com>
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
> <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:01:12 PM
> Subject: DNF vs YUM, $pkg, $pkg-mpi, $pkg-openmpi having same provides

> Hello,

> Investigating bug #1230838, I noticed that when installing mmg3d-libs, dnf
> installs Konsole output ptscotch-mpich, whereas yum-deprecated installs
> scotch. Both scotch and ptscotch-mpich provide the required
> libscotch.so.0()(64bit), albeit one in /usr/lib64/ and the other one in
> /usr/lib64/mpich/lib/:

> $ dnf repoquery --requires mmg3d-libs
> [...]
> libscotch.so.0()(64bit)
> libscotcherr.so.0()(64bit)
> [...]

> $ dnf provides 'libscotch.so.0()(64bit)'
> ptscotch-mpich-6.0.4-2.fc23.x86_64 : PT-Scotch libraries compiled against
> mpich
> Repo : rawhide

> ptscotch-openmpi-6.0.4-2.fc23.x86_64 : PT-Scotch libraries compiled against
> openmpi
> Repo : rawhide

> scotch-6.0.4-2.fc23.x86_64 : Graph, mesh and hypergraph partitioning library
> Repo : rawhide

> Konsole output $ dnf repoquery -l scotch.x86_64 | grep libscotch.so.0
> /usr/lib64/libscotch.so.0
> /usr/lib64/libscotch.so.0.2

> Konsole output $ dnf repoquery -l ptscotch-mpich.x86_64 | grep libscotch.so.0
> /usr/lib64/mpich/lib/libscotch.so.0
> /usr/lib64/mpich/lib/libscotch.so.0.2

> $ dnf install mmg3d-libs
> [...]
> Installing:
> environment-modules x86_64 3.2.10-14.fc23 rawhide 117 k
> hwloc-libs x86_64 1.10.1-2.fc23 rawhide 1.3 M
> lzma-libs x86_64 4.32.7-13.fc22 rawhide 38 k
> mmg3d-libs x86_64 4.0.2-1.fc23 rawhide 211 k
> mpich x86_64 3.1.4-3.fc23 rawhide 1.1 M
> ptscotch-mpich

> $ yum-deprecated install mmg3d-libs
> [...]
> Installing:
> mmg3d-libs x86_64 4.0.2-1.fc23 rawhide 211 k
> Installing for dependencies:
> lzma-libs x86_64 4.32.7-13.fc22 rawhide 38 k
> scotch

> So, whose fault is this? Packaging of dnf? Nothing relevant for this caught
> my eye skimming through the packaging guidelines.

> And related: trying to install some $pkg-openmpi package, I don't generally
> see packages enforcing that the -openmpi version of some dependency library
> is installed as opposed to just the regular libs package. Should such
> requires need to be stated explicitly?

> Thanks,
> Sandro

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If a package "Requires: foo" and both "bar" and "barbaz" "Provides: foo", they are \
handled as being equally suitable. DNF/libsolv is not going to prefer packages with \
                shorter names. 
-- 
Radek Holý 
Associate Software Engineer 
Software Management Team 
Red Hat Czech 

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al;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: \
</b>"Sandro Mani" &lt;manisandro@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"Development discussions \
related to Fedora" &lt;devel@lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, \
June 11, 2015 6:01:12 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>DNF vs YUM, $pkg, $pkg-mpi, $pkg-openmpi \
having same provides<br><div><br></div>  

    Hello,<br>
    <br>
    Investigating bug #1230838, I noticed that when installing
    mmg3d-libs, dnf installs
    <title>Konsole output</title>
    ptscotch-mpich, whereas yum-deprecated installs scotch. Both scotch
    and&nbsp; ptscotch-mpich provide the required libscotch.so.0()(64bit),
    albeit one in /usr/lib64/ and the other one in
    /usr/lib64/mpich/lib/:<br>
    <br>
    $ dnf repoquery --requires mmg3d-libs<br>
    [...]<br>
    libscotch.so.0()(64bit)<br>
    libscotcherr.so.0()(64bit)<br>
    [...]<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    $ dnf provides 'libscotch.so.0()(64bit)'<br>
    ptscotch-mpich-6.0.4-2.fc23.x86_64 : PT-Scotch libraries compiled
    against mpich<br>
    Repo&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : rawhide<br>
    <br>
    ptscotch-openmpi-6.0.4-2.fc23.x86_64 : PT-Scotch libraries compiled
    against openmpi<br>
    Repo&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : rawhide<br>
    <br>
    scotch-6.0.4-2.fc23.x86_64 : Graph, mesh and hypergraph partitioning
    library<br>
    Repo&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : rawhide<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <title>Konsole output</title>
    $ dnf repoquery -l scotch.x86_64 | grep libscotch.so.0<br>
    /usr/lib64/libscotch.so.0<br>
    /usr/lib64/libscotch.so.0.2

    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <title>Konsole output</title>
    $ dnf repoquery -l ptscotch-mpich.x86_64 | grep libscotch.so.0<br>
    /usr/lib64/mpich/lib/libscotch.so.0<br>
    /usr/lib64/mpich/lib/libscotch.so.0.2<br>
    <br>

    <br>
    $ dnf install mmg3d-libs<br>
    [...]<br>
    Installing:<br>
    &nbsp;environment-modules&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
x86_64&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
  3.2.10-14.fc23&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
rawhide&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
117 k<br>  &nbsp;hwloc-libs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp \
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
x86_64&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
  1.10.1-2.fc23&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
rawhide&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
1.3 M<br>  &nbsp;lzma-libs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
x86_64&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
  4.32.7-13.fc22&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
rawhide&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
38 k<br>  &nbsp;mmg3d-libs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
x86_64&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
  4.0.2-1.fc23&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
rawhide&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
211 k<br>  &nbsp;mpich&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs \
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
x86_64&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
  3.1.4-3.fc23&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
rawhide&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
1.1 M<br>  &nbsp;ptscotch-mpich <br>
    <br>
    $ yum-deprecated install mmg3d-libs<br>
    [...]<br>
    Installing:<br>
    &nbsp;mmg3d-libs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
x86_64&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
  4.0.2-1.fc23&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
rawhide&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
211  k<br>
    Installing for dependencies:<br>
    &nbsp;lzma-libs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
x86_64&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
  4.32.7-13.fc22&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
rawhide&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
38  k<br>
    &nbsp;scotch<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    So, whose fault is this? Packaging of dnf? Nothing relevant for this
    caught my eye skimming through the packaging guidelines.<br>
    <br>
    And related: trying to install some $pkg-openmpi package, I don't
    generally see packages enforcing that the -openmpi version of some
    dependency library is installed as opposed to just the regular libs
    package. Should such requires need to be stated explicitly?<br>
    <br>
    Thanks,<br>
    Sandro<br>

<br>-- <br>devel mailing \
list<br>devel@lists.fedoraproject.org<br>https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel<br>Fedora \
Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct</blockquote><div><br>If a \
package "Requires: foo" and both "bar" and "barbaz" "Provides: foo", they are handled \
as being equally suitable. DNF/libsolv is not going to prefer packages with shorter \
names.<br></div><div>-- <br></div><div><span name="x"></span>Radek Holý<br>Associate \
Software Engineer<br>Software Management Team<br>Red Hat Czech<span \
name="x"></span><br></div></div></body></html>

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