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List:       fedora-devel-list
Subject:    Re: Network configuration future
From:       Adam Williamson <awilliam () redhat ! com>
Date:       2012-08-30 18:50:32
Message-ID: 6cf182851dbf5af2b2a69f42b9a8e6ba () www ! happyassassin ! net
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On 2012-08-29 22:43, Olaf Kirch wrote:
> Hi Adam,
>
> On Thursday 30 August 2012 04:16:23 Adam Williamson wrote:
>> > *** Network Manager is just another daemon created for a task
>> > which historically often did not need any daemons. It's almost as 
>> if
>> > the new generation of Unix hackers wants to redo everything -
>> > in x10 or x100 times bloated and more complex way than it was done
>> > before.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> > One, a modern network management framework should run as a 
>> service.
>> > The
>> > kernel offers a plethora of notifications via rtnetlink, and
>> > increasingly
>> > expects user space to react to these (for instance in the IPv6 
>> area).
>> > Running a network management daemon allows us to track the state,
>> > detect
>> > changes, and react to them appropriately.
>>
>> There appears to be some cognitive dissonance in the document. It 
>> seems
>> odd to criticize NetworkManager solely for being a bloated, complex
>> daemon, and then, having dismissed NM, in describing the ideal
>> next-generation network management framework, declare that it ought 
>> to
>> be a bloated complex daemon...
>
> That dissonance is explained easily. Only the second section you 
> quote was
> written by me, the other is a comment from Denis Vlasenko, actually 
> :-)

Ah, I was wondering about the strange layout of the mail, but didn't 
grok it was hum vs. you. Makes more sense now! Thanks.
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