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Subject: Re: GRUB 2 in Ubuntu 9.10
From: King InuYasha <ngompa13 () gmail ! com>
Date: 2009-06-10 20:43:35
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On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Dennis J. <dennisml@conversis.de> wrote:
> On 06/10/2009 06:36 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 11:07 -0500, King InuYasha wrote:
>>
>> Well, the existing GRUB used in distros was declared Legacy a long
>>> time ago. GRUB 2 is a rewrite that is supposed to include all the
>>> features the various vendors have been patching into GRUB Legacy, as
>>> well as being able to support EFI and basically supporting what the
>>> Chameleon bootloader does in addition to the GRUB Legacy's support.
>>> Though I doubt fake-EFI would be implemented in GRUB 2....
>>>
>>
>> The grub we're already shipping has EFI support.
>>
>> I have yet to hear of a problem we're actually having that would be
>> solved with grub2.
>>
>
> If that's the case then it obviously makes sense to stick with grub
> "legacy" but given it's status who is going to be upstream for this? What I
> fear is a similar situation like we had with rpm where nobody really took
> ownership and vendors carried their own individual patches wich doesn't
> really work well with fedoras "stay close to upstream" mantra.
>
>
> Regards,
> Dennis
>
We are already in that position. However, with Ubuntu's apparent willingness
to test and see if GRUB 2 is worthy of being used in Ubuntu 9.10, other
distros may actually do so as well. Perhaps Fedora should do a test day or
something after figuring out what features we need our boot loader to
actually support and if GRUB 2 would fulfill the requirements.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Dennis J. <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dennisml@conversis.de">dennisml@conversis.de</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, \
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div></div><div \
class="h5">On 06/10/2009 06:36 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:<br> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt \
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 11:07 -0500, King InuYasha \
wrote:<br> <br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); \
margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Well, the existing GRUB used in \
distros was declared Legacy a long<br> time ago. GRUB 2 is a rewrite that is supposed \
to include all the<br> features the various vendors have been patching into GRUB \
Legacy, as<br> well as being able to support EFI and basically supporting what \
the<br> Chameleon bootloader does in addition to the GRUB Legacy's support.<br>
Though I doubt fake-EFI would be implemented in GRUB 2....<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
The grub we're already shipping has EFI support.<br>
<br>
I have yet to hear of a problem we're actually having that would be<br>
solved with grub2.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div></div>
If that's the case then it obviously makes sense to stick with grub \
"legacy" but given it's status who is going to be upstream for this? \
What I fear is a similar situation like we had with rpm where nobody really took \
ownership and vendors carried their own individual patches wich doesn't really \
work well with fedoras "stay close to upstream" mantra.<div> \
<div></div><div class="h5"><br> <br>
Regards,<br>
Dennis<br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br><br>We are already in that position. However, with \
Ubuntu's apparent willingness to test and see if GRUB 2 is worthy of being used \
in Ubuntu 9.10, other distros may actually do so as well. Perhaps Fedora should do a \
test day or something after figuring out what features we need our boot loader to \
actually support and if GRUB 2 would fulfill the requirements. <br> </div></div>
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