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Subject:    Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2021-06-29
From:       Matthias Clasen <mclasen () redhat ! com>
Date:       2021-06-29 14:28:02
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#startmeeting Workstation WG (2021-06-29)
#meetingname workstation
#chair Neal

#topic Rollcall
#info present:  Matthias (secr.), Neal, Chris, Tomas, Jens, Michael
#info regrets: Allan
#info present guests: Luna Jernberg(bittin), Omar Sandoval, Michel

#topic Approval of June 23 minutes
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-06-23-01.53.html
#agreed no objections

#topic Fesco deadline is today, Owen wants agreement from wg for
proposals for installing
repos by default, and flathub with a filter

Michael says that these proposals have been discussed and agreed to by
the WG in the past,
so this should be uncontroversial.

Owen will wait a few hours for feedback on the proposals.

#agreed interested parties should comment on the proposals after the meeting

#topic Discussion with Omar Sandoval

Chris introduces Omar and the topic of encryption of user/systemdata with btrfs.
This is follow-up to discussion from 2 weeks ago.
Hot question: When is the code expected to land in the upstream kernel?

Omar expects this to land in complete form, not piecemeal. Timeline
expectation: end-of-the-year
btrfs-specific parts will be different from how fscrypt does things,
so that will need a bit of
extra attention.

Chris is asking about enabling encryption at runtime. Omar says that
he thinks about using
the defrag code paths for this. Use case at facebook: container images
with well-known,
unencrypted base images and encrypted modifications.

Chris is asking about providing user keys after the fact. Omar says
that this sounds like
a userspace problem.

Neal asks about having multiple keys for decrypting. Omar says that
the kernel only supports
one encryption key, which would have to be protected in a key
management system if
multiple keys are desired.

Omar says that upstreaming of all this work is still pending. He will
reach out when things
are in a state where testing would be useful.

Neal was asking questions around backup and encryption.

Followup questions can be sent to Omar Sandoval <osandov@osandov.com>

#topic Open Floor

Matthias mentions negotiations with Lennart about having him come back for homed
discussion. Current

Next weeks meeting is cancelled due to July 4, next meeting: July 13.

#endmeeting
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