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Subject:    Re: [XP] The Universal Car, Not
From:       Adam Dymitruk <adam () dymitruk ! com>
Date:       2012-12-24 20:01:24
Message-ID: CAKRXNtpkOKe-5dLOXBrYQjhRd2SBo+FZ0UGr5d+9ViANaHaUng () mail ! gmail ! com
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Nicely said.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:46 PM, George Dinwiddie
<lists@idiacomputing.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hill,
>
> Thinking about this, I disagree. XP /did/ catch on. It didn't gain the
> market popularity that Scrum did, but it hasn't suffered the watering
> down that Scrum has, either. XP sill has the fire for those who aren't
> worried about burning themselves.
>
> So cheer the F up.
>
> - George
>
>
> On 12/18/12 5:08 PM, Michael Hill wrote:
> > There's no best car, bereft context. Winnebago's suck at the
> zero-to-sixty,
> > but don't try fixing bacon and eggs for a Ferrari.
> >
> > What I try to deliver to my clients is some progress towards excellence.
> > And though I still have my colossal flops, I often do. Some of them need
> to
> > learn how to sort work from most-to-least-important. Some of them need to
> > just learn how to ship. Some of them have really bad code and they need
> to
> > see a path towards fixing it.
> >
> > I have been grumpy about Scrum, and even grumpier about the emptiness of
> > "Agile", what with Microsoft and HP both claiming the label. And I do
> feel
> > bad that the fire of XP did not catch on, and Scrum and Agile did.
> >
> > On better days, I realize that blaming Scrum for winning is really just
> > blaming XP, including me, for not carrying our vision out into the
> industry.
> >
> > Love,
> > Hill
> >
> > P.S.Apologies for feeling all philosophical today. Going forward, I'll
> try
> > to be more outrageous and obscene.
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> * George Dinwiddie * http://blog.gdinwiddie.com
> Software Development http://www.idiacomputing.com
> Consultant and Coach http://www.agilemaryland.org
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>  
>



-- 
--

Adam

www.dymitruk.com


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