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Subject:    Re: [XP] The consequences of shortening release cycles
From:       Ricardo Mayerhofer <ricardo.ekm.listas () gmail ! com>
Date:       2009-10-26 13:12:24
Message-ID: 4AE5A038.9040406 () gmail ! com
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Unfortunately, some decisions are hard to change, like database schemas. 
Even if you have some migration in place, with large amount of data it 
can be an arduous task.
So, in some cases, I think it's interesting to release in batches so you 
can postpone this kind of decision to the last responsible moment.

Niklas Bjørnerstedt escreveu:
> The biggest cost in having infrequent releases in my opinion is that you risk very \
> nasty surprises when you do release. The business suddenly realizes that what it \
> said was needed is not what the business actually needs. You even risk never being \
> able to release if the goal of the release is too big. A classic example of the \
> latter is replacement projects where the goal often is "release the new system when \
> it is at least as good as the old one".  
> Shortening the release cycle can not be achieved on a purely technical basis. You \
> have to get the business to accept to use the release. I am involved in a Wiki that \
> focuses on the strategic part. The aim is to collect patterns and principles that \
> make it possible to release often: 
> http://wiki.cantara.no/display/ARS/Agile+Release+Strategies+Home
> 
> /Niklas
> www.leanway.no
> 
> --- In extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com, Karl Scotland <kjscotland@...> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Kent
> > 
> > 2009/10/20 kentb <kentb@...>
> > 
> > 
> > > I am writing a new "Introduction to Agile Development" talk and I am
> > > structuring it by describing the qualitative changes necessary to enable
> > > successive shortening of the release cycle. Each transition--annual
> > > releases
> > > to quarterly, quarterly to monthly, monthly to weekly, weekly to daily, and
> > > daily to hourly--requires a shift in values, principles, and practices.
> > > 
> > > 
> > Interesting approach. I like it. I wonder whether an angle is to explore the
> > cost of a release (i.e. transaction cost), and use that to drive out process
> > improvements?
> > The cost of an annual release may be in Integration and Test. Or it may be
> > the cost to customers of going through a painful upgrade process. Or it may
> > be in marketing. Or documentation.
> > Each of these might result in different shifts in values, principles and
> > practices.
> > 
> > Karl
> > 
> > -- 
> > Karl Scotland
> > Agile Coach
> > http://availagility.wordpress.com/
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > 
> > 
> 
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                  <p>Unfortunately, some decisions are hard to change, like database \
schemas. <br> Even if you have some migration in place, with large amount of data it \
<br> can be an arduous task.<br>
So, in some cases, I think it's interesting to release in batches so you <br>
can postpone this kind of decision to the last responsible moment.<br>
<br>
Niklas Bjørnerstedt escreveu:<br>
&gt; The biggest cost in having infrequent releases in my opinion is that you risk \
very nasty surprises when you do release. The business suddenly realizes that what it \
said was needed is not what the business actually needs. You even risk never being \
able to release if the goal of the release is too big. A classic example of the \
latter is replacement projects where the goal often is &quot;release the new system \
when it is at least as good as the old one&quot;. <br> &gt;<br>
&gt; Shortening the release cycle can not be achieved on a purely technical basis. \
You have to get the business to accept to use the release. I am involved in a Wiki \
that focuses on the strategic part. The aim is to collect patterns and principles \
that make it possible to release often:<br> &gt;<br>
&gt; <a href="http://wiki.cantara.no/display/ARS/Agile+Release+Strategies+Home">http:/ \
/wiki.<wbr>cantara.no/<wbr>display/ARS/<wbr>Agile&#43;Release&#43;<wbr>Strategies&#43;<wbr>Home</a><br>
 &gt;<br>
&gt; /Niklas<br>
&gt; www.leanway.<wbr>no<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --- In <a href="mailto:extremeprogramming%40yahoogroups.com">extremeprogramming@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>, \
Karl Scotland &lt;kjscotland@<wbr>...&gt; wrote:<br> &gt;   <br>
&gt;&gt; Hi Kent<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; 2009/10/20 kentb &lt;kentb@...&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;     <br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I am writing a new &quot;Introduction to Agile Development&quot; talk \
and I am<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; structuring it by describing the qualitative changes \
necessary to enable<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; successive shortening of the release cycle. Each \
transition--<wbr>annual<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; releases<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; to quarterly, quarterly to monthly, monthly to weekly, weekly to daily, \
and<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; daily to hourly--requires a shift in values, principles, and \
practices.<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;       <br>
&gt;&gt; Interesting approach. I like it. I wonder whether an angle is to explore \
the<br> &gt;&gt; cost of a release (i.e. transaction cost), and use that to drive out \
process<br> &gt;&gt; improvements?<br>
&gt;&gt; The cost of an annual release may be in Integration and Test. Or it may \
be<br> &gt;&gt; the cost to customers of going through a painful upgrade process. Or \
it may<br> &gt;&gt; be in marketing. Or documentation.<br>
&gt;&gt; Each of these might result in different shifts in values, principles and<br>
&gt;&gt; practices.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Karl<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; -- <br>
&gt;&gt; Karl Scotland<br>
&gt;&gt; Agile Coach<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://availagility.wordpress.com/">http://availagility<wbr>.wordpress.<wbr>com/</a><br>
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	  margin-bottom: 20px;
	  padding: 0 8px;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad{
		padding: 8px 0;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{
		font-family: Arial;
		font-weight: bold;
		color: #628c2a;
		font-size: 100%;
		line-height: 122%;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
		text-decoration: none;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{
		text-decoration: underline;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad p{
		margin: 0;
		font-weight: normal;
		color: #000000;
	}
	o{font-size: 0; }
	.MsoNormal{
	   margin: 0 0 0 0;
	}
	#ygrp-text tt{
	  font-size: 120%;
	}
	blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}
	.replbq{margin:4}

dd.last p span {
  margin-right: 10px;
  font-family: Verdana;
  font-weight: bold;
}

dd.last p span.yshortcuts {
  margin-right: 0;
}

div.photo-title a,
div.photo-title a:active,
div.photo-title a:hover,
div.photo-title a:visited {
    text-decoration: none;
}

div.file-title a,
div.file-title a:active,
div.file-title a:hover,
div.file-title a:visited {
    text-decoration: none;
}

#ygrp-msg p#attach-count {
    clear: both;
    padding: 15px 0 3px 0;
    overflow: hidden;
}

#ygrp-msg p#attach-count span {
    color: #1E66AE;
    font-weight: bold;
}

div#ygrp-mlmsg #ygrp-msg p a span.yshortcuts {
    font-family: Verdana;
    font-size: 10px;
    font-weight: normal;
}

#ygrp-msg p a {
    font-family: Verdana;
}

#ygrp-mlmsg a {
    color: #1E66AE;
}

div.attach-table div div a {
    text-decoration: none;
}

div.attach-table {
    width: 400px;
}

	-->
	</style>
	</head>
	<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~-->
	</html><!--End group email -->



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