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Subject: Re: [XP] Results of Agile Usability/User-Centered Design Survey:
From: Zahid Hussain <zahidabro () gmail ! com>
Date: 2009-10-12 16:04:52
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Dear Kent,
The data about teams deployment are given below. The data didn't copied due
to the mistake and the technical problem of the survey tool "LimeSurvey"
that I used.
*Q22. Over the past year how often has your team released new versions of
the software to end-users?*
4
weekly
4
monthly
no
4
every time critical bugfixes had to be fixed
10-20
4
On average 1 new version per month
10
circa weekly
every 3 to 6 months
a month
~6 release versions/sub versions
20
1
1-10 depending on product
10
Every 6 months, so twice
2
many times
16
Once per quarter
1 time/half year
4
~3
Every two weeks some new features are released
4
0
Every six months
every year
4 times
every 6 months
3
4
3 times
02
100s
4
1
only pre-beta releases
we don't release the software - we do the design
3-4 -- most agile products are on a quarterly release cycle
10
2
Every few weeks.
3
every 2 weeks
1 release every 4 months but will change to small releases once big dev
change out of the way
1
2
2
monthly
1
50
Three major releases, each with dozens of milestone releases along the way.
3
4
12+
2
not yet
~every 2 months
4
Twice a week
3
4
Monthly
weekly
staged releases
6
two times.
3
1 release per 2 months
12
our clients release new versions, not we.
*Q23. Over the next year how often does your team expects to release new
versions of the software to end-users?
4
weekly
4
ditto
often
4
every time critical bugfixes have to be fixed
10-20
4
As needed
10-30
circa weekly
every 3 months
~6 versions?
not applicable as happens in projected mode. We do not develop products as
such, we develop to customer needs based on their schedules
every 2 weeks
1
After every sprint is the goal (2-4 weeks, depending on the team)
n/a
Every six monts, so twice.
2
several times
25
Once per quarter
1 time/half year
4
~3
Every 2-6 weeks
4
6
Same - every six months
twice
4
every 6 months
3
4
3 times
100s
NA
1
- see above
3-4 -- essentially quarterly
10
2
Every few months
4
every 3 months
No idea more frequently
4
3
2 per year
bi-monthly
2
70
Two more in 2009
5
5
12+
1
4 times
~every 2 months
6
Twice a week or more often
5
4
Monthly
weekly
quarterly
?
two or three times.
4
1 release per 3 months
12
our clients release new versions, not we.
*
As an advocate of XP, I was expecting that XP would be the most used agile
method but it is second to Scrum.
Additionally, Low-Fidelity Prototyping is the most used HCI technique which
shows the increasing realization of some usability in the agile methods and
agile teams.
Regards,
Zahid
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:13 PM, kentb <kentb@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you for sharing you data back. I was curious why you didn't report
> the
> data for how frequently teams deploy. I would be interested to see it.
>
> What was the biggest surprise in the survey for you?
>
> Regards,
>
> Kent
>
> _____
>
> From: extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com<extremeprogramming%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com<extremeprogramming%40yahoogroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of Zahid Hussain
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 6:44 AM
> To: extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com<extremeprogramming%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [XP] Results of Agile Usability/User-Centered Design Survey:
> presented at USAB 2009 in Linz, Austria, Nov, 9-10, 2009
>
>
> Dear,
>
> The summarized results of our Agile Usability/User-Centered Design Survey,
> carried out in June 2009, are now available online at:
> http://mamtam3. <http://mamtam3.ist.tugraz.at/agileUCDSurvey2009.htm>
> ist.tugraz.at/agileUCDSurvey2009.htm
>
> The results will be presented and discussed at USAB 2009, 5th Usability
> Symposium of the Austrian Computer Society (OCG), Linz, Austria, November,
> 9-10, 2009 http://usab. <http://usab.icchp.org> icchp.org
>
> and have been published:
> Hussain, Z., Slany, W. & Holzinger, A. (2009) Current State of Agile
> User-Centered Design: A Survey. In: HCI and Usability for e-Inclusion.
> 5th Symposium of of the Austrian Computer Society, USAB 2009, Lecture
> Notes in Computer Science LNCS 5889. Berlin, Heidelberg, New York,
> Springer, 416-427.
>
> We cordially thank all participants in this survey,
>
> Best regards
> Zahid Hussain, Wolfgang Slany & Andreas Holzinger
> See you in Linz!
> --
> Zahid Hussain
> Institut für Softwaretechnologie
> Technische Universität Graz
> 8010 Graz, Austria
> TEL: (+43|0)316-873-5743
> FAX: (+43|0)316-873-5706
> http://www.ist. <http://www.ist.tugraz.at/> tugraz.at/
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
--
Zahid Hussain
Institut für Softwaretechnologie
Technische Universität Graz
8010 Graz, Austria
TEL: (+43|0)316-873-5743
FAX: (+43|0)316-873-5706
http://www.ist.tugraz.at/
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<p>Dear Kent,<br>
<br>
The data about teams deployment are given below. The data didn't copied due<br>
to the mistake and the technical problem of the survey tool \
"LimeSurvey"<br> that I used.<br>
<br>
*Q22. Over the past year how often has your team released new versions of<br>
the software to end-users?*<br>
4<br>
weekly<br>
4<br>
monthly<br>
no<br>
4<br>
every time critical bugfixes had to be fixed<br>
10-20<br>
4<br>
On average 1 new version per month<br>
10<br>
circa weekly<br>
every 3 to 6 months<br>
a month<br>
~6 release versions/sub versions<br>
20<br>
1<br>
1-10 depending on product<br>
10<br>
Every 6 months, so twice<br>
2<br>
many times<br>
16<br>
Once per quarter<br>
1 time/half year<br>
4<br>
~3<br>
Every two weeks some new features are released<br>
4<br>
0<br>
Every six months<br>
every year<br>
4 times<br>
every 6 months<br>
3<br>
4<br>
3 times<br>
02<br>
100s<br>
4<br>
1<br>
only pre-beta releases<br>
we don't release the software - we do the design<br>
3-4 -- most agile products are on a quarterly release cycle<br>
10<br>
2<br>
Every few weeks.<br>
3<br>
every 2 weeks<br>
1 release every 4 months but will change to small releases once big dev<br>
change out of the way<br>
1<br>
2<br>
2<br>
monthly<br>
1<br>
50<br>
Three major releases, each with dozens of milestone releases along the way.<br>
3<br>
4<br>
12+<br>
2<br>
not yet<br>
~every 2 months<br>
4<br>
Twice a week<br>
3<br>
4<br>
Monthly<br>
weekly<br>
staged releases<br>
6<br>
two times.<br>
3<br>
1 release per 2 months<br>
12<br>
our clients release new versions, not we.<br>
<br>
*Q23. Over the next year how often does your team expects to release new<br>
versions of the software to end-users?<br>
<br>
4<br>
weekly<br>
4<br>
ditto<br>
often<br>
4<br>
every time critical bugfixes have to be fixed<br>
10-20<br>
4<br>
As needed<br>
10-30<br>
circa weekly<br>
every 3 months<br>
~6 versions?<br>
not applicable as happens in projected mode. We do not develop products as<br>
such, we develop to customer needs based on their schedules<br>
every 2 weeks<br>
1<br>
After every sprint is the goal (2-4 weeks, depending on the team)<br>
n/a<br>
Every six monts, so twice.<br>
2<br>
several times<br>
25<br>
Once per quarter<br>
1 time/half year<br>
4<br>
~3<br>
Every 2-6 weeks<br>
4<br>
6<br>
Same - every six months<br>
twice<br>
4<br>
every 6 months<br>
3<br>
4<br>
3 times<br>
100s<br>
NA<br>
1<br>
- see above<br>
3-4 -- essentially quarterly<br>
10<br>
2<br>
Every few months<br>
4<br>
every 3 months<br>
No idea more frequently<br>
4<br>
3<br>
2 per year<br>
bi-monthly<br>
2<br>
70<br>
Two more in 2009<br>
5<br>
5<br>
12+<br>
1<br>
4 times<br>
~every 2 months<br>
6<br>
Twice a week or more often<br>
5<br>
4<br>
Monthly<br>
weekly<br>
quarterly<br>
?<br>
two or three times.<br>
4<br>
1 release per 3 months<br>
12<br>
our clients release new versions, not we.<br>
*<br>
<br>
As an advocate of XP, I was expecting that XP would be the most used agile<br>
method but it is second to Scrum.<br>
Additionally, Low-Fidelity Prototyping is the most used HCI technique which<br>
shows the increasing realization of some usability in the agile methods and<br>
agile teams.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Zahid<br>
<br>
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:13 PM, kentb <<a \
href="mailto:kentb%40earthlink.net">kentb@earthlink.<wbr>net</a>> wrote:<br> <br>
><br>
><br>
> Thank you for sharing you data back. I was curious why you didn't report<br>
> the<br>
> data for how frequently teams deploy. I would be interested to see it.<br>
><br>
> What was the biggest surprise in the survey for you?<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Kent<br>
><br>
> _____<br>
><br>
> From: <a href="mailto:extremeprogramming%40yahoogroups.com">extremeprogramming@<w \
br>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><extremeprogramming<wbr>%40yahoogroups.<wbr>com><br> \
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:extremeprogramming%40yahoogroups.com">extremeprogramming@ \
<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><extremeprogramming<wbr>%40yahoogroups.<wbr>com>]<br>
> On Behalf Of Zahid Hussain<br>
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 6:44 AM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:extremeprogramming%40yahoogroups.com">extremeprogramming@<wbr \
>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><extremeprogramming<wbr>%40yahoogroups.<wbr>com><br> \
> > Subject: [XP] Results of Agile Usability/User-<wbr>Centered Design Survey:<br>
> presented at USAB 2009 in Linz, Austria, Nov, 9-10, 2009<br>
><br>
><br>
> Dear,<br>
><br>
> The summarized results of our Agile Usability/User-<wbr>Centered Design \
Survey,<br> > carried out in June 2009, are now available online at:<br>
> <a href="http://mamtam3.">http://mamtam3.</a> <<a \
href="http://mamtam3.ist.tugraz.at/agileUCDSurvey2009.htm">http://mamtam3.<wbr>ist.tugraz.<wbr>at/agileUCDSurve<wbr>y2009.htm</a>><br>
> ist.tugraz.at/<wbr>agileUCDSurvey20<wbr>09.htm<br>
><br>
> The results will be presented and discussed at USAB 2009, 5th Usability<br>
> Symposium of the Austrian Computer Society (OCG), Linz, Austria, November,<br>
> 9-10, 2009 <a href="http://usab.">http://usab.</a> <<a \
href="http://usab.icchp.org">http://usab.<wbr>icchp.org</a>> icchp.org<br> \
><br> > and have been published:<br>
> Hussain, Z., Slany, W. & Holzinger, A. (2009) Current State of Agile<br>
> User-Centered Design: A Survey. In: HCI and Usability for e-Inclusion.<br>
> 5th Symposium of of the Austrian Computer Society, USAB 2009, Lecture<br>
> Notes in Computer Science LNCS 5889. Berlin, Heidelberg, New York,<br>
> Springer, 416-427.<br>
><br>
> We cordially thank all participants in this survey,<br>
><br>
> Best regards<br>
> Zahid Hussain, Wolfgang Slany & Andreas Holzinger<br>
> See you in Linz!<br>
> --<br>
> Zahid Hussain<br>
> Institut für Softwaretechnologie<br>
> Technische Universität Graz<br>
> 8010 Graz, Austria<br>
> TEL: (+43|0)316-873-<wbr>5743<br>
> FAX: (+43|0)316-873-<wbr>5706<br>
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tugraz.at/<br> ><br>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br>
><br>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
<br>
-- <br>
Zahid Hussain<br>
Institut für Softwaretechnologie<br>
Technische Universität Graz<br>
8010 Graz, Austria<br>
TEL: (+43|0)316-873-<wbr>5743<br>
FAX: (+43|0)316-873-<wbr>5706<br>
<a href="http://www.ist.tugraz.at/">http://www.ist.<wbr>tugraz.at/</a><br>
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