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List:       extremeprogramming
Subject:    Re: [XP] Re: 2009 Agile Practice Adoption Survey -- Chance to Win a
From:       Fernando Cuenca <fercuenk () gmail ! com>
Date:       2009-07-28 20:24:05
Message-ID: ef24bd2e0907281324g6b66ea12wdba7596b72cbeadd () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:11 AM, woynam<woyna@argonne.com> wrote:
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> I believe the abandonment of burndowns is directly tied to the failure to
> deliver working software each iteration.

I have observed another variation of this: lack of agreement on how to
define "done-done." When different members of the team (both dev and
business) work towards different interpretation of what "done" mean,
you reach a point where it is very difficult to actually track where
you really are. At the end of the iteration you have lots of loose
ends mixed up with stories that are really "done", but some of those
were "done" within this iteration, whereas others are carry overs,
etc, so the chart doesn't really reflect progress towards a clear end
goal.

Saludos!
Fernando.

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                  <p>On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:11 AM, woynam&lt;<a \
href="mailto:woyna%40argonne.com">woyna@argonne.<wbr>com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I believe the abandonment of burndowns is directly tied to the failure to<br>
&gt; deliver working software each iteration.<br>
<br>
I have observed another variation of this: lack of agreement on how to<br>
define &quot;done-done.&quot; When different members of the team (both dev and<br>
business) work towards different interpretation of what &quot;done&quot; mean,<br>
you reach a point where it is very difficult to actually track where<br>
you really are. At the end of the iteration you have lots of loose<br>
ends mixed up with stories that are really &quot;done&quot;, but some of those<br>
were &quot;done&quot; within this iteration, whereas others are carry overs,<br>
etc, so the chart doesn't really reflect progress towards a clear end<br>
goal.<br>
<br>
Saludos!<br>
Fernando.<br>
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