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List:       extremeprogramming
Subject:    Re: [XP] Acceptance Test Editor, Dr. Funk
From:       Darren Hinderer <hindenburg () gmail ! com>
Date:       2009-07-13 17:00:33
Message-ID: 8f9ea7190907131000n6bad3c9fp3e7eec13869eb87b () mail ! gmail ! com
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Hi Craig,

Thanks for taking a look.

The tests are not automated, the app was designed for editing and
organizing tests. If you want to run the tests manually it helps out
by letting you mark your progress. We end up automating our acceptance
tests in a variety of technologies so I did not attempt to tackle
combining automation with editing. Probably something like FIT or
Cucumber is a better idea if you want to do that.

One team here that did acceptance test automation with Selenium found
Dr. Funk useful for just planning each story. Then once the story was
complete they went back and automated things.

--
Darren

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Craig Davidson<craigmdavidson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Darren,
>
> Had a quick look - there is no Run Tests button.
>
> Are the tests not automated - or am I missing something?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Craig
>
> 2009/7/13 Darren Hinderer <hindenburg@gmail.com>
>
>> Hi, I want to introduce an open source project that supports the XP
>> development work I do.
>>
>> Check it out the source here:
>> http://github.com/magpie/drfunk/tree/master
>>
>> Live Demo:
>> http://funk.heroku.com
>>
>> After working with Wikis, Word, and Testopia for writing acceptance
>> tests I found that what annoyed me most was that they were lousy at
>> dealing with test steps. Inside of an acceptance test, I tend to
>> break things down into several Action and Expected items. Those are
>> the steps in Dr. Funk.
>>
>> At Magpie (http://www.magpieti.com) we've been using Dr. Funk to write
>> tests since January. While it's hard to compete with a text editor
>> like Word, here are the benefits as I see them:
>> * Simple interface stays out of the way
>> * Drag and drop organization of steps and tests
>> * Easily run manual acceptance tests as a team
>>
>> I'm very excited to get feedback from this list because the focus on
>> acceptance tests in other agile development groups appears to me to be
>> relatively low. If you would like to give feedback outside of email,
>> I've setup a user voice site here:
>> http://drfunk.uservoice.com
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Darren Hinderer
>> hindenburg@gmail.com
>>
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      <p>Hi Craig,<br>
<br>
Thanks for taking a look.<br>
<br>
The tests are not automated, the app was designed for editing and<br>
organizing tests. If you want to run the tests manually it helps out<br>
by letting you mark your progress. We end up automating our acceptance<br>
tests in a variety of technologies so I did not attempt to tackle<br>
combining automation with editing. Probably something like FIT or<br>
Cucumber is a better idea if you want to do that.<br>
<br>
One team here that did acceptance test automation with Selenium found<br>
Dr. Funk useful for just planning each story. Then once the story was<br>
complete they went back and automated things.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Darren<br>
<br>
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Craig Davidson&lt;<a \
href="mailto:craigmdavidson%40gmail.com">craigmdavidson@<wbr>gmail.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br> &gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi Darren,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Had a quick look - there is no Run Tests button.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Are the tests not automated - or am I missing something?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Craig<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2009/7/13 Darren Hinderer &lt;<a \
href="mailto:hindenburg%40gmail.com">hindenburg@gmail.<wbr>com</a>&gt;<br> &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Hi, I want to introduce an open source project that supports the XP<br>
&gt;&gt; development work I do.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Check it out the source here:<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://github.com/magpie/drfunk/tree/master">http://github.<wbr>com/magpie/<wbr>drfunk/tree/<wbr>master</a><br>
 &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Live Demo:<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://funk.heroku.com">http://funk.<wbr>heroku.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; After working with Wikis, Word, and Testopia for writing acceptance<br>
&gt;&gt; tests I found that what annoyed me most was that they were lousy at<br>
&gt;&gt; dealing with test steps. Inside of an acceptance test, I tend to<br>
&gt;&gt; break things down into several Action and Expected items. Those are<br>
&gt;&gt; the steps in Dr. Funk.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; At Magpie (<a \
href="http://www.magpieti.com">http://www.magpieti<wbr>.com</a>) we've been using Dr. \
Funk to write<br> &gt;&gt; tests since January. While it's hard to compete with a \
text editor<br> &gt;&gt; like Word, here are the benefits as I see them:<br>
&gt;&gt; * Simple interface stays out of the way<br>
&gt;&gt; * Drag and drop organization of steps and tests<br>
&gt;&gt; * Easily run manual acceptance tests as a team<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I'm very excited to get feedback from this list because the focus on<br>
&gt;&gt; acceptance tests in other agile development groups appears to me to be<br>
&gt;&gt; relatively low. If you would like to give feedback outside of email,<br>
&gt;&gt; I've setup a user voice site here:<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://drfunk.uservoice.com">http://drfunk.<wbr>uservoice.<wbr>com</a><br>
 &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; Darren Hinderer<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:hindenburg%40gmail.com">hindenburg@gmail.<wbr>com</a><br>
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		text-decoration: none;
		font-size: 130%;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor #nc{
	  background-color: #eee;
	  margin-bottom: 20px;
	  padding: 0 8px;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad{
		padding: 8px 0;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{
		font-family: Arial;
		font-weight: bold;
		color: #628c2a;
		font-size: 100%;
		line-height: 122%;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
		text-decoration: none;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{
		text-decoration: underline;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad p{
		margin: 0;
		font-weight: normal;
		color: #000000;
	}
	o{font-size: 0; }
	.MsoNormal{
	   margin: 0 0 0 0;
	}
	#ygrp-text tt{
	  font-size: 120%;
	}
	blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}
	.replbq{margin:4}

dd.last p span {
  margin-right: 10px;
  font-family: Verdana;
  font-weight: bold;
}

dd.last p span.yshortcuts {
  margin-right: 0;
}

div.photo-title a,
div.photo-title a:active,
div.photo-title a:hover,
div.photo-title a:visited {
    text-decoration: none;
}

div.file-title a,
div.file-title a:active,
div.file-title a:hover,
div.file-title a:visited {
    text-decoration: none;
}

#ygrp-msg p#attach-count {
    clear: both;
    padding: 15px 0 3px 0;
    overflow: hidden;
}

#ygrp-msg p#attach-count span {
    color: #1E66AE;
    font-weight: bold;
}

div#ygrp-mlmsg #ygrp-msg p a span.yshortcuts {
    font-family: Verdana;
    font-size: 10px;
    font-weight: normal;
}

#ygrp-msg p a {
    font-family: Verdana;
    font-size: 10px;
}

#ygrp-mlmsg a {
    color: #1E66AE;
}

div.attach-table div div a {
    text-decoration: none;
}

div.attach-table {
    width: 400px;
}

	-->
	</style>
	</head>
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	</html><!--End group email -->



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