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List:       extremeprogramming
Subject:    Re: [XP] calculating story points
From:       Steven Gordon <sgordonphd () gmail ! com>
Date:       2009-04-30 19:29:02
Message-ID: 709b71310904301229l7189168ct30b6df3638e5837 () mail ! gmail ! com
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Given that most new teams make their stories too large, starting from
2 is likely to lead to fractions when they learn to split stories
smaller (or the adoption of a new meaning of 2 story points).

More pragmatic to start from 8 if there is no coaching or prior experience.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Adam Sroka <adam.sroka@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tim Ottinger <linux_tim@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: George Dinwiddie <lists@idiacomputing.com>
>>>
>>> The easiest practice in my experience is to pick a fairly small story
>>> and call it a "2". Then estimate other stories relative to that one.
>>
>> +1
>>
>
> Mike Cohn says to pick a "medium-sized" story and estimate relative to
> that. The advantage is that it gives you some room to go both up and
> down in your relative estimates. Also, what constitutes "medium-sized"
> might be more consistent than what constitutes "small" or "large"
> since edge cases will happen at the edges ;-) YMMV, of course.

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      <p>Given that most new teams make their stories too large, starting from<br>
2 is likely to lead to fractions when they learn to split stories<br>
smaller (or the adoption of a new meaning of 2 story points).<br>
<br>
More pragmatic to start from 8 if there is no coaching or prior experience.<br>
<br>
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Adam Sroka &lt;<a \
href="mailto:adam.sroka%40gmail.com">adam.sroka@gmail.<wbr>com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> \
&gt;<br> &gt;<br>
&gt; On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tim Ottinger &lt;<a \
href="mailto:linux_tim%40yahoo.com">linux_tim@yahoo.<wbr>com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> \
&gt;&gt;<br> &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; ----- Original Message ----<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; From: George Dinwiddie &lt;<a \
href="mailto:lists%40idiacomputing.com">lists@idiacomputing<wbr>.com</a>&gt;<br> \
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; The easiest practice in my experience is to pick a \
fairly small story<br> &gt;&gt;&gt; and call it a &quot;2&quot;. Then estimate other \
stories relative to that one.<br> &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &#43;1<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Mike Cohn says to pick a &quot;medium-sized&quot; story and estimate relative \
to<br> &gt; that. The advantage is that it gives you some room to go both up and<br>
&gt; down in your relative estimates. Also, what constitutes \
&quot;medium-sized&quot;<br> &gt; might be more consistent than what constitutes \
&quot;small&quot; or &quot;large&quot;<br> &gt; since edge cases will happen at the \
edges ;-) YMMV, of course.<br> </p>
 

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