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From: Esther Schindler <esther () bitranch ! com>
Date: 2009-04-24 18:15:50
Message-ID: E54D8401-4C89-45E7-BE22-B283DC886282 () bitranch ! com
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I just now posted a "Frank update" as a comment on the blog post. :-)
On Apr 23, 2009, at 11:04 PM, Olof Bjarnason wrote:
> Esther;
>
> Thanks for summing up the topic.
>
> But (isn't there always one? he) as others have hinted, without giving
> Frank the opportunity to pair with developers fluent in the new
> language, you really cannot fire him with a light heart.
>
> How much pairing effort has Frank been through?
>
> /Olof
>
> 2009/4/24 Adam Sroka <adam.sroka@gmail.com>:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Phlip <phlip2005@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Phlip wrote:
>>>
>>>> "After six months on the new system, his inability to come up to
>>>> speed
>>>> is slowing down the project for his teammates and frustrating his
>>>> manager."
>>>>
>>>> I searched for "pair" but got no hit. Uh...
>>>
>>> D'oh! It's on page two. But..!
>>>
>>> Adam S. recommends pairing as a diagnostic technique.
>>>
>>> I recommend it as a technique to not even notice if "Frank" is
>>> having a
>>> creativity problem.
>>>
>>> How about Adam repeatedly write bugs and complications, and let
>>> Frank do
>>> what he
>>> does best with them?
>>>
>>
>> What I actually said was that we don't even know what is going on
>> with
>> Frank until we watch him do it. And, that if we sit down with him we
>> might learn a lot about what he is doing or not doing that is causing
>> him and those around him to perceive him as failing. We also may be
>> able to motivate him or fill in the missing bits that would enable
>> him
>> to work effectively. We really don't know, and if we don't sit down
>> with him we really have not yet tried to know.
>>
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<p>I just now posted a "Frank update" as a comment on the blog post. \
:-)<br> <br>
On Apr 23, 2009, at 11:04 PM, Olof Bjarnason wrote:<br>
<br>
> Esther;<br>
><br>
> Thanks for summing up the topic.<br>
><br>
> But (isn't there always one? he) as others have hinted, without giving<br>
> Frank the opportunity to pair with developers fluent in the new<br>
> language, you really cannot fire him with a light heart.<br>
><br>
> How much pairing effort has Frank been through?<br>
><br>
> /Olof<br>
><br>
> 2009/4/24 Adam Sroka <<a \
href="mailto:adam.sroka%40gmail.com">adam.sroka@gmail.<wbr>com</a>>:<br> \
>><br> >><br>
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Phlip <<a \
href="mailto:phlip2005%40gmail.com">phlip2005@gmail.<wbr>com</a>> wrote:<br> \
>>><br> >>><br>
>>> Phlip wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> "After six months on the new system, his inability to come up \
to <br> >>>> speed<br>
>>>> is slowing down the project for his teammates and frustrating \
his<br> >>>> manager."<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I searched for "pair" but got no hit. Uh...<br>
>>><br>
>>> D'oh! It's on page two. But..!<br>
>>><br>
>>> Adam S. recommends pairing as a diagnostic technique.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I recommend it as a technique to not even notice if "Frank" is \
<br> >>> having a<br>
>>> creativity problem.<br>
>>><br>
>>> How about Adam repeatedly write bugs and complications, and let <br>
>>> Frank do<br>
>>> what he<br>
>>> does best with them?<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>> What I actually said was that we don't even know what is going on <br>
>> with<br>
>> Frank until we watch him do it. And, that if we sit down with him we<br>
>> might learn a lot about what he is doing or not doing that is causing<br>
>> him and those around him to perceive him as failing. We also may be<br>
>> able to motivate him or fill in the missing bits that would enable <br>
>> him<br>
>> to work effectively. We really don't know, and if we don't sit down<br>
>> with him we really have not yet tried to know.<br>
>><br>
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