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List:       drbd-user
Subject:    Re: [DRBD-user] URGENT Request for DRBD Developers
From:       Gordan Bobic <drbd () bobich ! net>
Date:       2008-05-23 21:14:29
Message-ID: 483733B5.5060906 () bobich ! net
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If rebuilding from SRPMs or tar balls with .spec file in them is too 
much of an issue for you, I fear it is you who is missing the point.

Next you'll moan about the fact that distro packages are broken - and 
they often are, in any distribution. Examples that come to mind are the 
recent discovery of OpenSSL in Debian being broken and as it happens, 
the MySQL package in REHL/CentOS 5.x has completely broken alias handling.

If you are afraid of looking after your own package collection, you 
really should reconsider your calling as a systems administrator. 
Distributions make it easier, but there is no perfect solution. And 
atrpms repository isn't even the official distribution repository. Sure, 
RHEL is an improvement on Fedora, but there is no magic bullet.

Arguably, if you are _that_ concerned about stability, you shouldn't be 
upgrading _anything_ unless you verifiably run into a bug. Blindly 
running yum update is a recipe for disaster. For example in RHEL5, 
device mapper RAID support got changed/broken after the initial release. 
If you installed from the CentOS 5.0, and you are using device mapper 
RAID, then updating DM and rebuilding the initrd will render your system 
unbootable.

All of the issues I mentioned are just the ones I have personally run 
into. There are bound to be many more. And the ones I ran into are with 
the official RHEL distro packages, not even 3rd party repositories.

So I seriously suggest you wake up and smell the coffee. Rebuilding DRBD 
RPMs from the tar ball sources available for download is a trivial 
effort. You spent more time writing the original email than it would 
have taken you to build the rpm packages if you'd actually bothered to try.

Gordan

Art Age Software wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:39 AM, David Coulson <david@davidcoulson.net> wrote:
>> Art Age Software wrote:
>>> Well, because as I explained in my original post, DRBD is non-trivial
>>> to build and keep up with the current kernel version.
>> Really? Even if you download the SRPMs and use rpmbuild to create the binary
>> packages like the package maintainer does? It should be trivial to patch the
>> SRPMs and roll your own binary packages. You may need additional
>> dependencies, but it shouldn't be a major ordeal.
>>
>> David
>>
> It is the start down the slippery slope. Why not then build our own
> web server, database server, firewall software, kernel? Heck, why not
> build it all? Because that's what package management is for...
> Seriously, do you guys build everything by hand?
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