'Re: [DNG] What do you guys like about Desktop Environments?'

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Subject:    Re: [DNG] What do you guys like about Desktop Environments?
From:       Didier Kryn <kryn () in2p3 ! fr>
Date:       2024-01-01 17:47:11
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Le 01/01/2024 à 13:27, Gianluca Zoni via Dng a écrit :
> - the desktop is for the illiterate: if you are not illiterate,
>    then it is a limitation on your expression and action.  Many
>    people, used to the desktop, do not imagine what they can do
>    with a computer.  Basic principles of command-line programming
>    are the basis of any elementary education.  A 6-year-old
>    learning to read and write can give articulate language orders
>    to a computer.

     Well walking is for the dummies while riding a motorcycle is for 
people who know how. Nevertheless, walking by foot, in a "stupid" 
"gestural" fashion, like an "illiterate", is sometimes more convenient 
than using a motorcycle. It depends where you go.

     I sometimes use the interactive shell to navigate the filesystem 
(eg when developping apps), and sometimes use the graphical filemanager, 
eg to watch a movie whith a name containing spaces.

     ...

> The power of the written word - according to logic - would
>    become central.  It is a pedagogical problem, but above all a
>    civil and political one: it concerns habits and the attitude to
>    freedom
>    --> as McLuhan said: «the medium is the mEssage»

     What you say here is more ineresting and reminds me a reflection I 
got when thinking of my computer practice over many years: when I'm 
logged on, and specially when I'm working in terminal emulator, I've 
eventually realized that I'm in a kind of metaverse. My mind is 
concentrated; the outside world (the physical world) doesn't exist  
anymore and, sometimes I fill better. Much like when watching th movie 
Avatar, although it is not as impressive.

--     Didier

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 01/01/2024 Ã  13:27, Gianluca Zoni
      via Dng a Ã©crit  :<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:ZZKvyNT40UrjlIkQ@inventati.org">
      <pre>- the desktop is for the illiterate: if you are not illiterate,
  then it is a limitation on your expression and action.  Many
  people, used to the desktop, do not imagine what they can do
  with a computer.  Basic principles of command-line programming
  are the basis of any elementary education.  A 6-year-old
  learning to read and write can give articulate language orders
  to a computer.</pre>
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    <p>       Well walking is for the dummies while riding a motorcycle is
      for people who know how. Nevertheless, walking by foot, in a
      "stupid" "gestural" fashion, like an "illiterate", is sometimes
      more convenient than using a motorcycle. It depends where you go.</p>
    <p>       I sometimes use the interactive shell to navigate the
      filesystem (eg when developping apps), and sometimes use the
      graphical filemanager, eg to watch a movie whith a name containing
      spaces.</p>
    <p>       ...</p>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:ZZKvyNT40UrjlIkQ@inventati.org">
      <pre>The power of the written word - according to logic - would
  become central.  It is a pedagogical problem, but above all a
  civil and political one: it concerns habits and the attitude to
  freedom
  --&gt; as McLuhan said:  «the medium is the mEssage »</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p>       What you say here is more ineresting and reminds me a
      reflection I got when thinking of my computer practice over many
      years: when I'm logged on, and specially when I'm working in
      terminal emulator, I've eventually realized that I'm in a kind of
      metaverse. My mind is concentrated; the outside world (the
      physical world) doesn't exist   anymore and, sometimes I fill
      better. Much like when watching th movie Avatar, although it is
      not as impressive.</p>
    <p>--        Didier<br>
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