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Subject:    Re: [DNG] runit 2.1.2-54+usrmerge: usrmerge becoming mandatory for Devuan?
From:       Martin Steigerwald <martin () lichtvoll ! de>
Date:       2023-11-26 11:11:30
Message-ID: 5737372.DvuYhMxLoT () lichtvoll ! de
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Joel Roth via Dng - 26.11.23, 12:01:43 CET:
> On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 11:54:44AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Martin Steigerwald - 26.11.23, 11:49:24 CET:
[…]
> > I wonder whether the people behind merged usr ever fully thought about
> > the consequences of their proposal. Well… no, I do not wonder: They
> > did not. That much is obvious when I just briefly scan over above
> > document.
> I experimented for a time with gobolinux. They use symlinks
> extensively for backward compatibility in a new hierarchy
> that works very well. All the installed files of a program
> are stored under one directory, with symlinks wherever
> needed. gobo allows multiple versions of the same program to
> coexist. Removing a package is as simple as removing a
> single directory and cleaning up the dangling symlinks.
> 
> Based on that experience, I imagine that merged /usr could
> work okay, although I wonder how this affects manually
> installed software.

Well I bet it will work.

I am also administering quite some Debian systems and aside from silly 
things like "dpkg -S /usr/bin/bash" and some older shell scripts not 
working, those systems for me basically work okay enough.

Now what I would like to have confirmation whether I have to usr-merge my 
Devuan Ceres systems in order to continue for them to boot or whether that 
note is just for Debian users.

I am not willing to do the usr-merge if its not strictly necessary, but if 
necessary I will do it.

Right now this laptop with Devuan Ceres still boots okay without having 
been usr-merged. I just don't want to risk having an unbootable system, so 
if Devuan is not continuing to provide for the ability to have the system 
unmerged, I will merge them.

I expect that to be the case, but before I do a merge, a confirmation that 
it is necessary for Devuan Ceres would be nice. And again: I understand 
it. I bet it would be way too much work to divert here.

So anyone can shed a light on this?

Ciao,
-- 
Martin


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