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Subject:    [DMCA_Discuss] Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning
From:       Ruben I Safir <ruben () mrbrklyn ! com>
Date:       2002-11-21 15:20:07
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I know

People have no idea what their doing or what it takes to gain
votes and power.

This is why it pisses me off the Mr Wynkoop is screwing up 
NY Fair Use by doing things like canvassing Grand Central Station
for petition is this useless broad way.

It takes 10,000 signatures just to get on the ballot for Congress.


In a single district.

In order to win the DMCA battle you need tight tight disipline and
a well practiced, unchanging pitch.

Dragnets are useless and are like masterbation.  They just make you feel good.

Ruben

On 2002.11.21 09:44 David Sugar wrote:
> 
> 
> Ruben,
> 
> I learned all about elections from living in Chicago, where the dead did
> vote, families who could register out of town relatives were often courted
> by the local pricinct captain, and where on election day the city buses
> only ran in democratic wards...
> 
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> > They used to give you a meal ticket or $5.00 to vote.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ruben Safir [mailto:ruben@mrbrklyn.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:10 PM
> > To: David Sugar
> > Cc: akosmin@mrbrklyn.com; hangout@mrbrklyn.com
> > Subject: Re: [hangout] WRDII: scope and planning
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > And we are planning on having out dinner during the expo with,
> > hopefully, Richard Stallman, and Congressman Weiner for guests..
> > 
> > 
> > And we are doing nominations at the dinner.
> > 
> > So, as usually with NYLXS, we have a lot on our plate and we
> > are going to try to do everything to the best of our ability and
> > within our capabilities and resources.  And this needs to be kept in
> > mind.  We can make an announcement and cover some support, and integrate
> > it into the NYLXS booth.  However, how we are to do that successfully is
> > largely going to take planning by the Board, and Joe Villari, who is heading
> > up this effort.
> > 
> > 
> > Ruben
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:09:25PM -0500, David Sugar wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > This is why I think it is important, if one is going to announce a WRDII, 
> > > that it is nessisary for the user groups to be organizationally sold on 
> > > the idea, to understand why it is important, and then to do those things 
> > > nessisary to make it successful.  Just announcing it to the public will do
> > 
> > > virtually nothing in of itself.
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 akosmin@mrbrklyn.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Excellent idea. Do we have a van that can be used?
> > > > 
> > > > Adam
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:08:20AM -0500, David Sugar wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > What might be convenient then would be to organize a LW "van pool" to
> > the
> > > > > courthouse.  This works well for politcal parties when they need to
> > get
> > > > > out the vote too :).  That way, people also have no excuse with the 
> > > > > inconvenience....
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 akosmin@mrbrklyn.com wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > ____________________________
> > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > Fair Use -
> > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > 
> > 
> 
> ____________________________
> New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> Fair Use -
> because it's either fair use or useless....
> 
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