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Subject: Re: Migration of dia-list to GNOME Discourse instance
From: Michael Ross via dia-list <dia-list () gnome ! org>
Date: 2020-10-20 11:19:55
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This is certainly, a surprise. No ongoing discussion, just here you go,
live with it.
I have been replying to newbie emails here for at least 15 years. I will
not be migrating to Discourse with Dia.
I am familiar with Discourse. But, I don't use it the same way as an email
list, and even for topics I have a lot of passion for, I find that I
monitor the traffic less. This migration is just more creeping social
media, it is not better. It is just different. It caters to new, younger
users, rather than to established power users. It is a time suck compared
to an email list. It provides more dopamine hits and encourages stickiness
and addictive behavior. You have to lift the skirts of it to see what it
does to the human mind that a straight email interface does not.
I am sorry to see this "fixing" of what is not broken. The triumph of the
new, and pretty, over the established, effective, and streamlined.
Making Discourse an "opt in" further ensures a loss of old knowledge.
Best of luck to you all. May you have great joy and positive energy in your
lives.
Mike
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 8:25 AM Olav Vitters via dia-list <dia-list@gnome.org>
wrote:
> Dear subscribers,
>
> Please cc me on replies.
>
> We've set up https://discourse.gnome.org a year and a half ago, as part
> of an attempt at making the GTK mailing list more friendly to newcomers.
> This experiment seems to have proven itself well enough, and has since
> expanded to other territories as well. As such, we believe it is time to
> make the same switch for most of our mailing lists.
>
> This means that this mailing list will be archived in favour of continued
> discussion at GNOME's Discourse instance. No need to worry that this will
> mess with your workflow: it is still possible to get notifications by email
> by subscribing to the appropriate tags and/or posts. You can also still
> reply by e-mail if you prefer. Just like before, it's also possible to
> receive a general weekly digest.
>
> The proposed closure of this mailing list will be on: Oct 30th, 2020
>
> As a subscriber of this mailing list please create an account on
> https://discourse.gnome.org/. It's unfortunately not possible to
> automatically migrate the existing subscribers to Discourse. In case you
> wonder what will happen to the current mailing list after the closure date:
> the archives will remain public though you won't be able to subscribe or
> send emails to the current list.
>
> For dia-list the new discussions would take place in the Applications
> category on Discourse using the 'dia' tag. Unfortunately creating a new
> thread with a dia tag is not possible at this time, the following link can
> be used:
> https://discourse.gnome.org/new-topic?category=Applications&tags=dia,
> anyone can respond once a topic is created.
>
> For further information on Discourse, please see the following topics:
>
> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/interacting-with-discourse-via-email/46
> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/tags-and-watching/94
>
> Finally, feel welcome to say hi by introducing yourself over at
> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/say-hello-thread/ !
>
> On behalf of the Discourse migration volunteers.
>
> Cheers,
> Olav
> _______________________________________________
> dia-list mailing list
> dia-list@gnome.org
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list
> FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq
> Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
>
>
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<div dir="auto">This is certainly, a surprise. No ongoing discussion, just here you \
go, live with it.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have been replying to \
newbie emails here for at least 15 years. I will not be migrating to Discourse with \
Dia. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am familiar with Discourse. But, I \
don't use it the same way as an email list, and even for topics I have a lot of \
passion for, I find that I monitor the traffic less. This migration is just more \
creeping social media, it is not better. It is just different. It caters to new, \
younger users, rather than to established power users. It is a time suck compared to \
an email list. It provides more dopamine hits and encourages stickiness and addictive \
behavior. You have to lift the skirts of it to see what it does to the human mind \
that a straight email interface does not.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div \
dir="auto">I am sorry to see this "fixing" of what is not broken. The \
triumph of the new, and pretty, over the established, effective, and \
streamlined.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Making Discourse an \
"opt in" further ensures a loss of old knowledge.</div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best of luck to you all. May you have great joy \
and positive energy in your lives.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div \
dir="auto">Mike</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 8:25 AM Olav Vitters via dia-list <<a \
href="mailto:dia-list@gnome.org">dia-list@gnome.org</a>> \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear \
subscribers,<br><br>Please cc me on replies.<br><br>We've set up <a \
href="https://discourse.gnome.org" target="_blank" \
rel="noreferrer">https://discourse.gnome.org</a> a year and a half ago, as part of an \
attempt at making the GTK mailing list more friendly to newcomers. This experiment \
seems to have proven itself well enough, and has since expanded to other territories \
as well. As such, we believe it is time to make the same switch for most of our \
mailing lists.<br><br>This means that this mailing list will be archived in favour of \
continued discussion at GNOME's Discourse instance. No need to worry that this \
will mess with your workflow: it is still possible to get notifications by email by \
subscribing to the appropriate tags and/or posts. You can also still reply by e-mail \
if you prefer. Just like before, it's also possible to receive a general weekly \
digest.<br><br>The proposed closure of this mailing list will be on: Oct 30th, \
2020<br><br>As a subscriber of this mailing list please create an account on <a \
href="https://discourse.gnome.org/" target="_blank" \
rel="noreferrer">https://discourse.gnome.org/</a>. It's unfortunately not \
possible to automatically migrate the existing subscribers to Discourse. In case you \
wonder what will happen to the current mailing list after the closure date: the \
archives will remain public though you won't be able to subscribe or send emails \
to the current list.<br><br>For dia-list the new discussions would take place in the \
Applications category on Discourse using the 'dia' tag. Unfortunately \
creating a new thread with a dia tag is not possible at this time, the following link \
can be used: <a href="https://discourse.gnome.org/new-topic?category=Applications&tags=dia" \
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://discourse.gnome.org/new-topic?category=Applications&tags=dia</a>, \
anyone can respond once a topic is created.<br><br>For further information on \
Discourse, please see the following topics:<br><br><a \
href="https://discourse.gnome.org/t/interacting-with-discourse-via-email/46" \
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://discourse.gnome.org/t/interacting-with-discourse-via-email/46</a><br><a \
href="https://discourse.gnome.org/t/tags-and-watching/94" target="_blank" \
rel="noreferrer">https://discourse.gnome.org/t/tags-and-watching/94</a><br><br>Finally, \
feel welcome to say hi by introducing yourself over at <a \
href="https://discourse.gnome.org/t/say-hello-thread/" target="_blank" \
rel="noreferrer">https://discourse.gnome.org/t/say-hello-thread/</a> !<br><br>On \
behalf of the Discourse migration \
volunteers.<br><br><div>Cheers,</div><div>Olav</div></div> \
_______________________________________________<br> dia-list mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:dia-list@gnome.org" target="_blank" \
rel="noreferrer">dia-list@gnome.org</a><br> <a \
href="https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list</a><br> FAQ at <a \
href="http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq</a><br> Main page at <a \
href="http://live.gnome.org/Dia" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://live.gnome.org/Dia</a><br> <br>
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