From debian-user Sat Apr 19 16:23:22 2014 From: David Guntner Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 16:23:22 +0000 To: debian-user Subject: Re: Heartbleed Message-Id: <5352A2FA.5090402 () guntner ! com> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=debian-user&m=139792465628581 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--------------ms060906070908090000040303" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060906070908090000040303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This discussion is best continued here: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic Joe grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 14:33:43 +1000 > Scott Ferguson wrote: >=20 >=20 >> >> Perhaps the solution is not greater bureaucracy to safeguard data >> ignorance, >> >=20 > I certainly wasn't suggesting bureaucracy, my country has more than > enough already, and we all know that laws are framed to allow > governments to do exactly what they forbid other people to do. >=20 >> but greater personal responsibility and a reassessment of >> what privacy "rights" are unreasonable expectations? >=20 > I was suggesting that perhaps many people are leaking more information > about themselves than they think, a lot of it with long expiry dates. > I don't really care about people knowing that I was a Scout in my > childhood, or what I bought in one of my local supermarkets last week, > but I'd rather not publish the list of organisations I belonged to last= > week. (No, there aren't any embarrassing ones, but that's not the > point). >=20 > Collectively that leaked data could cause unexpected harm to them, > either financially or otherwise. Yes, 'responsibility'. Every now and > then, I Google my full name in various combinations, and no personal > reference to me ever appears in at least the first ten pages. 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