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List:       debian-devel
Subject:    Re: Debian 11 Bullseye Setup Problems Error Report
From:       Tomas Pospisek <tpo2 () sourcepole ! ch>
Date:       2021-09-23 12:14:25
Message-ID: 8976d172-1728-0518-c0e2-80c3722f02c7 () sourcepole ! ch
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G'day admin4,

I suggest you take this to the #debian IRC channel where you can 
hopefully drill down to the root cause of the problem. A mailing list 
like debian-devel is not really well suited to do back-and-forth 
debugging...
*t

On 23.09.21 12:08, admin4 wrote:
> GoodDay Mates,
> 
> network connectivity dropping during package download is still there, it 
> is a major problem, sometimes it works, sometimes not, this used to work 
> very well.
> 
> it will especially annoy new users, so this issue need to be debugged & 
> fixed!
> 
> will also write to SpaceX about it (if it has anything to do with their 
> setup)
> 
> the free version iso seems to have have a network problem during package 
> download: (after software selection)
> 
> https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=149974&p=743218#p743218 
> <https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=149974&p=743218#p743218>
> 
> trying non-free now.
> 
> tried yesterday and today installing
> 
> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/cu ... 64/iso-cd/ 
> <https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/>
> 
> on Lenovo t440
> 
> and the problem is still there... this time it downloaded 1388 packages 
> of 1491 before grinding to a halt...
> 
> * after software selection (wanted to try the KDE Desktop, being big
> MATE fan for it's simplicity) from the default debian package mirror
> https://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ <https://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/>
> 
> it just stops downloading packages after ~100 packages (loses 
> connectivity) and stays there until timeout[/list]
> 
> * downloading isos via wget from just works fine
> 
> best regards
> 
> On 8/19/21 5:25 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:42 AM admin4  wrote:
> > 
> > > is there a Debian "testing" team?
> > That is composed of everyone who uses Debian and especially those who
> > decide to report an issue they found.
> > 
> > > that does test setups of Debian ISOs on a bunch of different hardware with \
> > > priority on the most used CPUs like amd64 and i386, (free and non-free \
> > > versions)),
> > The Debian CD team do installation testing of each new Debian release
> > and each new Debian point release. They don't do things like download
> > RSS feeds or try to use less/vi in the installer though, they just
> > follow the installer prompts.
> > 
> > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianCD/ReleaseTesting
> > 
> > > 1) ask the user if everything works fine (rating from 1 to 5 stars)
> > > 
> > > and user can add a comment ( send some praise or comments what does/did not \
> > > work )
> > I don't think that Debian has enough people to monitor these, we have
> > enough bug reports and mailing list/forum posts to keep up with as it
> > is.
> > 
> > > 2) scan the hardware specs of the system
> > There is a shared cross-distro hardware database:
> > 
> > https://wiki.debian.org/Hardware/Database
> > https://linux-hardware.org/
> > https://bsd-hardware.org/
> > 
> > Unfortunately the script used to upload to the database, called
> > hw-probe, isn't yet integrated into the Debian installer nor the
> > Debian live installer (calamares).
> > 
> > https://bugs.debian.org/964853
> > https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1454
> > 
> > > anonymized! without any serials and mac addresses or ip addresses or screen \
> > > resolutions!, before uploading it to debian.org/hardware-compatibility-list
> > The above hardware database uses truncated salted hashes of some
> > hardware identifiers, in order to aggregate repeat uploads of hardware
> > probes of the same computer.
> > 
> > https://wiki.debian.org/PrivacyIssues#Data_sharing
> > https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe#privacy
> > 
> > > where the hardware is marked in green (works) orange (can be made to work with \
> > > this (link) workaround) or red (fails, no fix available currently)
> > There isn't any way to automatically check if hardware works, you
> > would need the user to check each item of hardware, make sure they did
> > the check correctly and only then report it working correctly. We
> > could create a Debian Live distro for hardware
> > testing/compatibility/reporting/certification, but no-one has done
> > that yet, although there was an idea and discussion at DebConf to do
> > something similar some years ago.
> > 
> > http://wiki.debian.org/Hardware/Certification
> > 
> > There is a corner of our wiki where Debian users can report their
> > experience with installing Debian, as well as the option to file
> > installation reports, which feed back to the installer team.
> > 
> > https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn
> > 
> -- 
> 
> mit freundlichem Gruß / best regards
> 
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