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List:       debian-devel
Subject:    Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog
From:       Rafael Laboissiere <rafael () debian ! org>
Date:       2005-11-24 9:02:21
Message-ID: 20051124090221.GA6230 () laboiss2
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* Thiemo Seufer <ths@networkno.de> [2005-11-24 02:13]:

> Stephen Gran wrote:
> > FWIW, Rafael, at first blush I have to say I agree with you.  A
> > maintainer address in Debian is just a way to get in touch with someone
> > when something goes wrong with the package.  If the mailing list is a
> > good way to get in touch with people when those packages break, then it
> > seems like a reasonable maintainer address.
> 
> AFAIU the changelog entry is supposed to bear the name of the uploader,
> and thus can't be a mailing list. Policy 4.4 seems to support this:
> 
>     "The maintainer name and email address used in the changelog should
>      be the details of the person uploading this version. They are not
>      necessarily those of the usual package maintainer."
> 
> > Bastian, what's the rationale for the filings you've been doing?  Do you
> > really think a mailing list address, (where any and all correspondence
> > about the packages is presumably archived and possibly even publicly
> > accessible), is somehow worse than mailing a single person (who
> > hopefully archives their package mail, but maybe not, and can almost be
> > guaranteed not to have publicly browseable archives)?  What are you
> > hoping to do here?
> 
> It provides a convenient way to find the person who did the final
> touches before an upload. The uses you are arguing are covered by
> the Maintainer: field.

I think that are two distinct concepts here.  The first is the maintainer
of the package, which should receive any e-mail messages related to the
package.  This name appears in the debian/changelog entry as well as in
the Maintainer field.  All correspondence must be directed to this entity
(either a person or a mailing list).

The second concept is the real, physical person who did a specific
upload.  This appears in the Changed-By field and is used to know who is
responsible for that upload.  If this person is in the Uploaders field of
debian/control, then debian-installer will not consider the upload as an
NMU.  Furthermore, this information is in the changes file and also
stored in the debian-devel-changes mailing list archive.

-- 
Rafael


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