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List:       cypherpunks
Subject:    Re: House Passes Curbs on NSA Phone Surveillance
From:       tpb-crypto () laposte ! net
Date:       2014-05-24 23:22:27
Message-ID: 797066920.227629.1400973747078.JavaMail.www () wwinf8308
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> Message du 25/05/14 01:18
> De : "Luther Blissett" 
> A : cypherpunks@cpunks.org
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> Objet : Re: House Passes Curbs on NSA Phone Surveillance
> 

> On Sat, 24 May 2014 02:48:06 -0400
> Griffin Boyce  wrote:
> 
> > On 2014-05-24 01:40, coderman wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:37 PM, jim bell  
> > > wrote:
> > > > http://news.yahoo.com/house-passes-curbs-nsa-phone-surveillance-221025685--politics.html
> > > >                 
> > > > ...
> > > > NSA officials were pleased with the bill for another reason: The new
> > > > arrangement will give them access to mobile calling records they did 
> > > > not
> > > > have under the old program.
> > > 
> > > what a fucking joke...
> > 
> > This whole process has been a total handjob. People making concessions 
> > to ensure that the rest of the bill offers some kind of protection, and 
> > of course most redeeming value has been lost.
> > 
> > It ends bulk metadata collection. That's the only redeeming part of 
> > this bill.
> > 
> > If we want real reform, we need to overhaul the FISA courts.
> > 
> 
> Would American citizens be against imposing their State the obligation to provide \
> the defendant with full access to the data held by the persecutors? Obligation to \
> indemnify those who they have wrongly and unlawfully persecuted? Provide full \
> access to the public as regards to their past operations and maintained databases \
> for public scrutiny? 
> Who is this all around enemy that is everywhere but there, inside the agency? 
> 

The people, of course. lol


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