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List:       cygwin-xfree
Subject:    FW: Cygwin patches into X (fwd)
From:       "Suhaib Siddiqi" <sssiddiqi () ipass ! net>
Date:       1999-09-27 12:01:52
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> Feel free to forward to the list if you like.
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> Nils.
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> From: Branden Robinson <branden@ecn.purdue.edu>
> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:00:17 -0400
> To: Nils Lohner <lohner@debian.org>
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> On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 05:10:33PM +0200, Nils Lohner wrote:
> > Someone has patches to allow XF86 to be built under Windoze
> > with cygwin, and the XF people are reluctant to let
> them in due to
> > commercial interestes, i.e. the finished X server
> binaries can't be bundl> ed
> > with other software.  Where do I find a clue bat large
> enough to change
> > this thinking?  Please have a lok at the mail below and
> let me know what > I 
> > can possibly do.
>
> Yes, I saw the gigantic flamewar on xfree86-devel about
> this, which was
> hopelessly entagled with what I'm sure is the thousandth
> iteration of a
> BSD vs. GPL licensing flamewar on that list.
>
> > My thinking: the patches do not force you to use cygwin
> to compile, but>  
> > rather just enable it for those who want it, and so I
> don't see any reaso> n 
> > why the XF people should object to the patches.  They
> enhance and do not>  
> > limit in any way.  If someone else wants to posrt it to
> a compiler with a>  
> > different license, noone is stopping them.
>
> That's true.
>
> > This is really frustrating me, people being this narrow
> minded (what's th> e 
> > politically correct term for that? :) and I'm hoping
> people here will hav> e 
> > some useful suggestions.
>
> Uh, this mailing list is brand new and pretty limited in
> scope.  (See the
> charter at <http://www.debian.org/~branden/>.)
>
> If some folks here want to form or join a coalition about
> this, I don't
> care, but I personally have too many irons in the fire as
> is and don't have
> much personal interest in such a thing (though you can be
> sure I'd use it
> if it saw the light of day).
>
> Ultimately I think the best way to change XFree86's mind
> on things like
> this is:
>   1) Make very sure all these cygwin changes are
> MIT-licensed.  I don't see
>      why this should be such a big deal as the X source
> base already
>      supports tons of proprietary compilation
> environments already.
>   2) If they don't listen, fork.  The sound of moving
> feet is a powerful
>      motivator.  When interests diverge, this is often
> the best thing to
>      do.
>
> Point 2 has problems with the XFree86 membership
> agreement, though,
> especially if the current patches are based against the
> CVS version of the
> XFree86 code.  Then again, with 3.9.16 out, how different
> can it be?
>
> I don't really have much more advice than that.  I also
> don't feel this
> topic is terribly germane to this list, so if interested
> parties from this
> list would consider mailing each other about I'd appreciate it.
>
> Sorry to sound so uninterested but I really just have too
> much on my plate
> to concern myself with XFree86 for Windows.  I hope you
> can sympathize.
>
> - -- 
> G. Branden Robinson              |   You don't just
> decide to break Kubrick> 's
> Debian GNU/Linux                 |   code of silence and
> then get drawn away
> branden@ecn.purdue.edu           |   from it to a
> discussion about cough
> cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ |   medicine.
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