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Subject:    Re: [Cryptography] This is it, we're all going to die
From:       John Ioannidis <ji () tla ! org>
Date:       2021-12-31 0:06:15
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On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 4:09 PM Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 06:05:26AM +0000, Peter Gutmann wrote:
> > [...]
> > The Linux kernel has X.509 processing inside it.
> > 
> > We're all going to die.
> 
> It could be worse.  Your CPU could have a hidden x.509 processing code
> *and* a web server, that isn't getting regular security patches, and
> was probably written by firmware engieners.
> 
> Oh, wait....
> 
> 
> https://www.networkworld.com/article/3236064/minix-the-most-popular-os-in-the-world-thanks-to-intel.html
>  
> 
We are already dead, it's just that the cache coherence circuitry hasn't
caught up with us.

Panda Hippo Gnu Deer

/ji


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<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 4:09 PM Theodore Ts&#39;o &lt;<a \
href="mailto:tytso@mit.edu">tytso@mit.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 06:05:26AM +0000, Peter \
Gutmann wrote:<br> &gt; [...]<br>
&gt; The Linux kernel has X.509 processing inside it.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; We&#39;re all going to die.<br>
<br>
It could be worse.   Your CPU could have a hidden x.509 processing code<br>
*and* a web server, that isn&#39;t getting regular security patches, and<br>
was probably written by firmware engieners.<br>
<br>
Oh, wait....<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.networkworld.com/article/3236064/minix-the-most-popular-os-in-the-world-thanks-to-intel.html" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.networkworld.com/article/3236064/minix-th \
e-most-popular-os-in-the-world-thanks-to-intel.html</a><br><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We \
are already dead, it&#39;s just that the cache coherence circuitry hasn&#39;t caught \
up with us.</div><div><br></div><div>Panda Hippo Gnu \
Deer</div><div><br></div><div>/ji  </div></div></div>



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