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From: Adrian McCullagh <amccullagh () live ! com>
Date: 2015-06-10 6:36:28
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Dear All,
I with 4 colleagues of mine (3 at the Queensland University of Technology \
(Cryptographers all)and one from the University of Queensland (Legal E-commerce \
researcher) have been working on a paper dealing with the Australian Defence Trade \
Control Act which corresponds to the proposed US ITAR changes.
Without giving everything away on our forthcoming paper, it appears to me that if \
this type of regulation had been in place in Germany in 1938, then it is highly \
likely that Einstein would never have read the Hahn - Strassmann paper dealing with \
splitting a uranium atom. That paper written in 1938 (December I believe) was read \
by Einstein in March 1939 and it directly lead to Einstein sending a letter to \
Roosevelt, which in turn resulted in 1942 to the establishment of the Manhattan \
project. Now if NAZI Germany had restricted that publication NAZI Germany could have \
developed the bomb itself which could have completely altered the outcome.
Basically, if regimes like the DCTA/ITAR rules are expanded then it works both ways \
and there could be a stifling of publication research due to bureaucratic \
mishandling. Though it could assist in the spy business as in the cold war.
Dr. Adrian McCullagh
Ph.D. LL.B.(Hons) B. App. Sc. (Computing)
ODMOB Lawyers
Mobile 0401 646 486
Skype. Admac57
E: ajmccullagh57@gmail.com
E: amccullagh@live.com
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From: alfiej@fastmail.fm
Sent: Wednesday, 10 June 2015 1:54 PM
To: Cryptography Mailing List, cypherpunks@cpunks.org
Snap, from Australia:
http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/dangerous-minds-are-maths-teachers-australias-newest-threat-20150608-ghira9.html
"Australian academics who teach mathematics may need to run new
ideas by the Department of Defence before sharing them or risk
imprisonment.
Some academics are set to become much more familiar with the
department's Defence Export Control Office (DECO), a unit that
enforces the Defence Trade Control Act 2012, Australia's end of a
2007 pact with the US and UK over defence trade.
Until recently, DECO only regulated physically exported weapons and
so-called "dual use" items such as encryption, computing hardware
and biological matter.
However in March the act was updated to include "intangible supply",
which is intended to prohibit the transfer of knowledge from
Australia that could be used to produce weapons."
Alfie
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015, at 05:36 PM, pete wrote:
> Proposed US ITAR changes. New regs, for comment, not yet in law or
> in force.
>
> http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nra-gun-blogs-videos-web-forums-threatened-by-new-obama-regulation/article/2565762
>
> www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2015-06-03/pdf/2015-12844.pdf
>
>
> Actually, it says, for the first time explicitly, that publishing
> widely on the internet would be enough to put data into the
> public domain
> [000]. Sounds good?
>
www.metzdowd.com/mailman/listinfo/cryptography
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'sans-serif';font-size:12pt;"><div><div>Dear All,</div><div><br></div><div>I with 4 \
colleagues of mine (3 at the Queensland University of Technology (Cryptographers \
all)and one from the University of Queensland (Legal E-commerce researcher) have \
been working on a paper dealing with the Australian Defence Trade Control Act which \
corresponds to the proposed US ITAR changes.</div><div><br></div><div>Without giving \
everything away on our forthcoming paper, it appears to me that if this type of \
regulation had been in place in Germany in 1938, then it is highly likely that \
Einstein would never have read the Hahn - Strassmann paper dealing with splitting a \
uranium atom. That paper written in 1938 (December I believe) was read by \
Einstein in March 1939 and it directly lead to Einstein sending a letter to \
Roosevelt, which in turn resulted in 1942 to the establishment of the Manhattan \
project. Now if NAZI Germany had restricted that publication NAZI \
Germany could have developed the bomb itself which could have completely altered \
the outcome.</div><div><br></div><div>Basically, if regimes like the DCTA/ITAR rules \
are expanded then it works both ways and there could be a stifling of publication \
research due to bureaucratic mishandling. Though it could assist in the spy \
business as in the cold war.</div><br></div><div \
data-signatureblock="true"><div><br></div><div>Dr. Adrian McCullagh <br>Ph.D. \
LL.B.(Hons) B. App. Sc. (Computing)<br>ODMOB Lawyers <br>Mobile 0401 646 \
486<br>Skype. Admac57<br>E: ajmccullagh57@gmail.com<br>E: \
amccullagh@live.com <br>The contents of this email are confidential between the \
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email in your power, possession or control. The sender reserves all rights concerning \
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"sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;'><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:alfiej@fastmail.fm" \
target="_parent">alfiej@fastmail.fm</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, \
10 June 2015 1:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a \
href="mailto:cryptography@metzdowd.com" target="_parent">Cryptography Mailing \
List</a>, <a href="mailto:cypherpunks@cpunks.org" \
target="_parent">cypherpunks@cpunks.org</a></font></div></div><div><br></div><div \
dir=""> <div class="PlainText">Snap, from Australia:<br>
<br>
<a \
href="http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/dangerous-minds-are-maths-teachers-australias-newest-threat-20150608-ghira9.html" \
target="_parent">http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/dangerous-minds-are-maths-teachers-australias-newest-threat-20150608-ghira9.html</a><br>
<br>
"Australian academics who teach mathematics may need to run \
new<br> ideas by the Department of Defence before sharing them or \
risk<br> imprisonment.<br>
<br>
Some academics are set to become much more familiar with the<br>
department's Defence Export Control Office (DECO), a unit that<br>
enforces the Defence Trade Control Act 2012, Australia's end of \
a<br> 2007 pact with the US and UK over defence trade.<br>
<br>
Until recently, DECO only regulated physically exported weapons \
and<br> so-called "dual use" items such as encryption, computing \
hardware<br> and biological matter.<br>
<br>
However in March the act was updated to include "intangible \
supply",<br> which is intended to prohibit the transfer of \
knowledge from<br> Australia that could be used to produce \
weapons."<br> <br>
Alfie<br>
<br>
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015, at 05:36 PM, pete wrote:<br>
> Proposed US ITAR changes. New regs, for comment, not yet in law or<br>
> in force.<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nra-gun-blogs-videos-web-forums-threatened-by-new-obama-regulation/article/2565762" \
target="_parent">http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nra-gun-blogs-videos-web-forums-threatened-by-new-obama-regulation/article/2565762</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2015-06-03/pdf/2015-12844.pdf" \
target="_parent">www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2015-06-03/pdf/2015-12844.pdf</a><br> \
><br> ><br>
> Actually, it says, for the first time explicitly, that publishing<br>
> widely on the internet would be enough to put data into the<br>
> public domain<br>
> [000]. Sounds good?<br>
><br>
<a href="http://www.metzdowd.com/mailman/listinfo/cryptography" \
target="_parent">www.metzdowd.com/mailman/listinfo/cryptography</a></div>
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