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List:       cryptography
Subject:    Re: [Cryptography] TAO, NSA crypto backdoor program
From:       Raphael Jacquot <sxpert () sxpert ! org>
Date:       2013-12-31 12:20:48
Message-ID: 0D4630DE-E70A-4615-93A0-3BE88AA5B1F7 () sxpert ! org
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On 31 Dec 2013, at 05:22, Lodewijk andré de la porte <l@odewijk.nl> wrote:
> 
> Language oddities / intel spills :
> "Through interdiction" [x can be implanted], what does this mean, really? It should \
> mean legally approved physical action I think. (from IRONCHEF and others)

“Interdiction” is the fact of rerouting packages in transit from factory to customer, \
so as to be able to hack on it. 

> "the customer" seems like the NSA is selling this to customers. Who are the \
> customers? Do they consider other 3letters customers? Are they their own customers? \
> Naive? Maybe they sell it to companies? (from FEEDTHROUHG) (note: seems like it's \
> NSA divisions other than ANT, never know though especially TAO**)

ANT is a division of TAO, customers are other NSA people.

> "DNT's BANANAGLEE and CES's ZESTYLEAK" - there seem to be at least two companies, \
> DNT and CES, with which the NSA works intimately.

DNT and CES are probably other NSA divisions, customers of ANT’s products

Raphaël


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05:22, Lodewijk andré de la porte &lt;<a \
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type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>Language oddities / intel spills \
:</div><div>"Through interdiction" [x can be implanted], what does this mean, really? \
It <i>should</i>&nbsp;mean legally approved physical action <i>I think. </i>(from \
IRONCHEF and others)</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>“Interdiction” \
is the fact of rerouting packages in transit from factory to customer, so as to be \
able to hack on it.&nbsp;</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div \
class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>"the customer" seems like the NSA \
is selling this to customers. Who are the customers? Do they consider other 3letters \
customers? Are they their own customers? Naive? Maybe they sell it to companies? \
(from FEEDTHROUHG) (note: seems like it's NSA divisions other than ANT, never know \
though especially TAO**)</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>ANT \
is a division of TAO, customers are other NSA people.</div><br><blockquote \
type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">

<div>"DNT's BANANAGLEE and CES's ZESTYLEAK" - there seem to be at least two \
companies, DNT and CES, with which the NSA works \
intimately.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>DNT and CES are \
probably other NSA divisions, customers of ANT’s \
products</div><div><br></div><div>Raphaël</div></div></body></html>


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