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List:       clamav-users
Subject:    Re: [clamav-users] off topic Re: clamav list spf problem
From:       Paul Kosinski <clamav-users () iment ! com>
Date:       2018-06-24 19:25:45
Message-ID: 20180624152545.52d01073 () ime1 ! iment ! local
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This reminds me of one of the reasons I dropped commercial AV software
in favor of Open Source ClamAV: I decided that I would prefer somewhat
less comprehensive AV rather than "full featured" AV that does things
you can't control (or sometimes even know about).

P.S. We also have internal email that never leaves of LAN (since we run
a local Postfix server) -- Barracuda's behavior is unacceptable.


On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 13:38:23 +0200
Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> Am 23.06.2018 um 06:56 schrieb Andrew McGlashan:
> > On 23/06/18 00:37, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> On Friday 22 June 2018 06:15:42 Reindl Harald wrote:
> >>
> >>> Am 22.06.2018 um 05:36 schrieb Gene Heskett:
> >>>> I get what I would call minimum spam, just enough to train SA
> >>>> with. A bad day is 10. When I was using my old account at the tv
> >>>> station, several years ago, the spam count was often 200+ a day.
> >>>> Whatever barracuda is trained to do, its doing it very well
> >>>
> >>> yeah, they pen links in your mails even with a local ahrwdare
> >>> appliance days after messages arrived from a server in the US and
> >>> call it "real time protection"
> >>>
> >>> i call it violation of any privacy and a reason that we killed
> >>> all our contracts beause it is a no-go wehn i send a test-message
> >>> to my gmail address and instead of google Barracuda Networks hits
> >>> the unsubscribe-link 3 days later and then even agrues "why does
> >>> this work witout confirmation?" - "because you fuckers have no
> >>> business to open any links in my emails?"
> >>
> >> Good point, and it should be a prosecutable offense.  But we all
> >> know what sort of chance there is of that ever happening. There
> >> will be flying pigs because hell froze over and is being used for
> >> a runway. 
> > 
> > That was Barracuda that "opened" those links?  Sounds like what
> > Skype did with links in chat :(
> 
> yes, but the difference here that we had a *harwdare appliance* within
> our network fro the purpose of get only signature updates but our mail
> traffic don't left our own ISP and bulidng which was violated
> 
> asking that idiots the response was "this is part iof the real time
> protection" -> guys go a f**k yourself when the testmail was sent on
> wednesday and the bot opened the unsubscribe link in the bight to
> saturday....

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