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From: "Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)" <rratliff () cisco ! com>
Date: 2016-08-31 20:10:28
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LBM is part of the new enhanced locations CAC feature. Combined with the transition \
of locations from a fixed hub & spoke model to locations & links It moves bandwidth \
allocation outside of the ccm process and allows multiple clusters to run on the same \
network and exchange bandwidth allocation info so they can stay in sync.
It's a bit more overhead setting up BUT it allows you to accurately model your real \
network.
-Ryan
On Aug 30, 2016, at 9:22 PM, NateCCIE <nateccie@gmail.com<mailto:nateccie@gmail.com>> \
wrote:
Isn't LBM for syncing to VCS?
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 30, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Anthony Holloway \
<avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com<mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yeah, I'm also aware of the perform logging, and I'm not a fan of it. From back when \
I did it on UCCX to trend JVM Heap usage, it was a pain in the ass to collect, \
consolidate (because it was multiple files), and view (you have to make sense of it). \
Unless you know of an easier way, I'm all ears.
Also, consider the scariness where I have not activated LBM on any nodes (oh my god, \
what?), but I have been creating locations (effectively unlimited BW), and before I \
turn on Locations Based CAC, I want to get a base line of traffic patterns. Well, \
then Perfmon is not going to help me, as these statistics wont be collected with LBM \
activated. I know from experience.
If I have to roll my own tool, I will, but I just thought...I don't know why...but I \
just thought there might be a built in report/way/mechanism to get this.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Brian Meade \
<bmeade90@vt.edu<mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu>> wrote: You can set up RTMT to log the data \
locally in a CSV- http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/service/7_1_2/rtmt/RTMT/rtconfpm.html#wp1057823
Unfortunately, the counters you're looking for aren't accessible via the \
server-stored Perfmon logs.
You could also collect these counters through the Serviceability XML API and store \
them somewhere- http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/devguide/9_1_1/xmldev-911/serviceability.html
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Ryan Huff \
<ryanhuff@outlook.com<mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com>> wrote: You'd probably be looking \
at a billing application that can parse and graph CDRs at that point ... IMHO.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 30, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Anthony Holloway \
<avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com<mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Ryan. I should have mentioned that I am already in RTMT (Why no "Current \
Bandwidth Usage" counter Cisco?), but what I'm really looking for is, historical \
reporting. I need to answer the question: Have calls between any of our sites began \
to increase or decrease since the introduction of a new tool? For example, if we \
deploy Jabber+CSF, will that increase or decrease our intra-company calls? One could \
guess it would decrease, since Instant Messaging is now introduced into the \
environment, but if there's a CSF for convenience, and now video for rich media \
communications, maybe it actually increases. I'd like to report on this, instead of \
doing the typical thing of pushing my usage statistics on the entire user community. \
"I don't think many people are using video, because I don't use video."
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Ryan Huff \
<ryanhuff@outlook.com<mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com>> wrote:
Anthony,
Although not likely what you are looking for (at least in the consumption method), \
there are a couple of performance counters you might be able to look at; Location \
LBM\BandwidthAvailable and Location LBM\VideoBandwidthAvailable. Subtracted from the \
configured amount, should yield usage.
= Ryan =
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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:52 PM
To: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM CAC Locations Usage Report
I'm not finding much, and I'll keep looking, but does anyone know how to get a \
bandwidth usage report between locations? E.g., Peak audio/video/immersive bandwidth \
consumption between all sites.
Thanks.
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after-white-space;" class=""> LBM is part of the new enhanced locations CAC feature. \
Combined with the transition of locations from a fixed hub & spoke model to \
locations & links It moves bandwidth allocation outside of the ccm process and \
allows multiple clusters to run on the same network and exchange bandwidth \
allocation info so they can stay in sync. <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">It's a bit more overhead setting up BUT it allows you to accurately \
model your real network.<br class=""> <div class=""><br class="">
<div class="">-Ryan </div>
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<div class="">On Aug 30, 2016, at 9:22 PM, NateCCIE <<a \
href="mailto:nateccie@gmail.com" class="">nateccie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div> <br \
class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <div class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">
<div class="">Isn't LBM for syncing to VCS?<br class="">
<br class="">
Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
On Aug 30, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Anthony Holloway <<a \
href="mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com" \
class="">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""> <br \
class=""> </div>
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">
<div dir="ltr" class="">Yeah, I'm also aware of the perform logging, and I'm not a \
fan of it. From back when I did it on UCCX to trend JVM Heap usage, it was a \
pain in the ass to collect, consolidate (because it was multiple files), and view \
(you have to make sense of it). Unless you know of an easier way, I'm all \
ears. <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Also, consider the scariness where I have not activated LBM on any \
nodes (oh my god, what?), but I have been creating locations (effectively unlimited \
BW), and before I turn on Locations Based CAC, I want to get a base line of traffic \
patterns. Well, then Perfmon is not going to help me, as these statistics wont \
be collected with LBM activated. I know from experience.</div> <div \
class=""><br class=""> </div>
<div class="">If I have to roll my own tool, I will, but I just thought...I don't \
know why...but I just thought there might be a built in report/way/mechanism to get \
this.</div> </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Brian Meade <span dir="ltr" \
class=""> <<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu" target="_blank" \
class="">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr" class="">You can set up RTMT to log the data \
locally in a CSV- <a \
href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/service/7_1_2/rtmt/RTMT/rtconfpm.html#wp1057823" \
target="_blank" class="">http://www.cisco.com/c/<wbr \
class="">en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/<wbr class="">cucm/service/7_1_2/rtmt/RTMT/<wbr \
class="">rtconfpm.html#wp1057823</a> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Unfortunately, the counters you're looking for aren't accessible via \
the server-stored Perfmon logs.</div> <div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">You could also collect these counters through the Serviceability XML \
API and store them somewhere- <a \
href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/devguide/9_1_1/xmldev-911/serviceability.html" \
target="_blank" class="">http://www.cisco.<wbr \
class="">com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_<wbr class="">comm/cucm/devguide/9_1_1/<wbr \
class="">xmldev-911/serviceability.html</a></div> </div>
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<div class="h5">On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Ryan Huff <span dir="ltr" class="">
<<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank" \
class="">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""> </div>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class="">
<div class="h5">
<div dir="auto" class="">
<div class="">You'd probably be looking at a billing application that can parse and \
graph CDRs at that point ... IMHO.<br class=""> <br class="">
Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
On Aug 30, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Anthony Holloway <<a \
href="mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com" target="_blank" \
class="">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.c<wbr class="">om</a>> wrote:<br \
class=""> <br class="">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">
<div dir="ltr" class="">Thanks Ryan. I should have mentioned that I am already \
in RTMT (Why no "Current Bandwidth Usage" counter Cisco?), but what I'm \
really looking for is, historical reporting. I need to answer the question: \
Have calls between any of our sites began to increase or decrease since the \
introduction of a new tool? For example, if we deploy Jabber+CSF, will that \
increase or decrease our intra-company calls? One could guess it would \
decrease, since Instant Messaging is now introduced into the environment, but if \
there's a CSF for convenience, and now video for rich media communications, maybe it \
actually increases. I'd like to report on this, instead of doing the typical \
thing of pushing my usage statistics on the entire user community. "I \
don't think many people are using video, because I don't use video."</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Ryan Huff <span dir="ltr" \
class=""> <<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" target="_blank" \
class="">ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr" class="">
<div style="font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: \
Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""> <p class="">Anthony,</p>
<p class=""><br class="">
</p>
<p class="">Although not likely what you are looking for (at least in the consumption \
method), there are a couple of performance counters you might be able to look at; \
Location LBM\BandwidthAvailable and Location LBM\<span \
class="">VideoBandwidthAvailable</span>. Subtracted from the configured amount, \
should yield usage. </p> <p class=""><br class="">
</p>
<div class="">
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; \
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""> = Ryan = </div>
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background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""> <hr \
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class="">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nethe<wbr class="">r.net</a>> on behalf of \
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target="_blank" class="">avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.c<wbr class="">om</a>><br \
class=""> <b class="">Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:52 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Cisco VoIP Group<br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] CUCM CAC Locations Usage Report</font>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">I'm not finding much, and I'll keep looking, but does anyone \
know how to get a bandwidth usage report between locations? E.g., Peak \
audio/video/immersive bandwidth consumption between all sites. <div class=""><br \
class=""> </div>
<div class="">Thanks.</div>
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