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Subject:    Re: [cisco-voip] Phone Restart on Subscriber add
From:       Brian Meade <bmeade90 () vt ! edu>
Date:       2015-04-29 15:00:32
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I think I tried that in the lab once and it still did the reset even though
rollback was on.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Adam Frankel (afrankel) <afrankel@cisco.com
> wrote:

> Brian is right.
> 
> 
> 
> Because TVS is not an activated service, it's automatically added to the
> ITL during installation, forcing a phone reset.  There is not currently a
> way around this – other than potentially  enabling the rollback parameter
> prior to node installation (which in itself causes a phone reset).
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] *On Behalf
> Of *Jason Aarons (AM)
> *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 4:07 PM
> *To:* Tommy Schlotterer; Ryan Huff; bmeade90@vt.edu
> 
> *Cc:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Phone Restart on Subscriber add
> 
> 
> 
> Despite the phone resets,  the customer's outsourced security group
> panicked when they saw a couple thousand packets at the TFTP servers when a
> sub got added to 10.5 cluster. Guess they thought a DDOS attack was going
> down or something.  Who knows what a 3rd party security company with IDS
> sensors would think….needless to say it created a small ruckus.
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* Tommy Schlotterer [mailto:tschlotterer@netechcorp.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 4:02 PM
> *To:* Ryan Huff; Jason Aarons (AM); bmeade90@vt.edu
> *Cc:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* RE: [cisco-voip] Phone Restart on Subscriber add
> 
> 
> 
> It's not a full reboot, looks just like an apply config, just enough for
> users to complain.
> 
> 
> 
> Tommy
> 
> 
> 
> *Tommy Schlotterer* | Systems Engineer
> 
> CCNA, CCNA Voice
> 
> 48325 Alpha Dr. Ste. 150
> 
> Wixom, MI 48393
> 
> *p* 248.468.0710
> 
> *e* tschlotterer@netechcorp.com
> 
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> 
> 
> *From:* Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com <ryanhuff@outlook.com>]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 3:59 PM
> *To:* Jason Aarons, (AM); bmeade90@vt.edu; Tommy Schlotterer
> *Cc:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Phone Restart on Subscriber add
> 
> 
> 
> I'll have to lab this up and see what I am missing; last week I added a
> 9.1.x cluster node and I didnt get any phone bounces during the install.
> 
> Strange.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ryan
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: "Jason Aarons (AM)" <jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 02:54 PM
> To: Brian Meade <bmeade90@vt.edu>,Tommy Schlotterer <
> tschlotterer@netechcorp.com>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Phone Restart on Subscriber add
> CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> 
> So building the subscriber resets all phones in cluster to download
> updated Trust List?
> 
> 
> 
> It has nothing to do with adding subscriber to the CallManager group the
> phone is using?
> 
> 
> 
> I've heard of this issue but wasn't clear (or forgot) about the specifics.
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net>] *On Behalf Of *Brian Meade
> *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 3:50 PM
> *To:* Tommy Schlotterer
> *Cc:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Phone Restart on Subscriber add
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> There's an option during the install to just check connectivity and then
> wait for the full install.  That's as far as you can go without resetting
> all the phones unfortunately.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Tommy Schlotterer <
> tschlotterer@netechcorp.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I do understand that. I just need to know when in the install, The
> customer doesn't want a 4 hour maintenance window to install a new node.
> 
> 
> 
> Tommy
> 
> 
> 
> *Tommy Schlotterer* | Systems Engineer
> 
> CCNA, CCNA Voice
> 
> 48325 Alpha Dr. Ste. 150
> 
> Wixom, MI 48393
> 
> *p* 248.468.0710
> 
> *e* tschlotterer@netechcorp.com
> 
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> 
> *From:* bmeade90@gmail.com [mailto:bmeade90@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Brian
> Meade
> *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 3:28 PM
> *To:* Tommy Schlotterer
> *Cc:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Phone Restart on Subscriber add
> 
> 
> 
> It happens when the cluster becomes aware of the new nodes certificates.
> It adds a new TVS entry to the ITL of each node and resets the phones to
> ensure they download the new ITL before any other ITL changes are made.
> This is to prevent too many changes happening the ITLs at once making the
> phones not trust the new ITLs.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Tommy Schlotterer <
> tschlotterer@netechcorp.com> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> 
> 
> I have a customer that is very picky on when phones will reboot when
> adding a new subscriber to a CUCM cluster.
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone know in what point the phones reboot? Right after the
> conntivity vierfication? Right when the new node is done installing?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tommy
> 
> 
> 
> *Tommy Schlotterer* | Systems Engineer
> 
> CCNA, CCNA Voice
> 
> 48325 Alpha Dr. Ste. 150
> 
> Wixom, MI 48393
> 
> *p* 248.468.0710
> 
> *e* tschlotterer@netechcorp.com
> 
> *w **netechcorp.com* <http://netechcorp.com/>
> 
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<div dir="ltr">I think I tried that in the lab once and it still did the reset even \
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Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Adam Frankel (afrankel) <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a \
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Brian \
is right.   <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u> \
<u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Because \
TVS is not an activated service, it's automatically added to the ITL during \
installation, forcing a phone reset.   There is not currently a way around  this – \
other than potentially   enabling the rollback parameter prior to node installation \
(which in itself causes a phone reset).<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u> \
<u></u></span></p> <div>
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New&quot;;color:#1f497d">-- <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier \
New&quot;;color:#1f497d">Adam <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u> \
<u></u></span></p> <div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> \
cisco-voip [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" \
target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jason \
Aarons (AM)<br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2015 4:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tommy Schlotterer; Ryan Huff; <a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu" \
target="_blank">bmeade90@vt.edu</a></span></p><div><div class="h5"><br> <b>Cc:</b> <a \
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" \
target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] \
Phone Restart on Subscriber add<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p> </div>
</div><div><div class="h5">
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>  <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Despite \
the phone resets,   the customer's outsourced security group panicked when they saw a \
couple thousand packets at the TFTP servers when a sub got added  to 10.5 cluster. \
Guess they thought a DDOS attack was going down or something.   Who knows what a \
3<sup>rd</sup> party security company with IDS sensors would think….needless to say \
it created a small ruckus.<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><a \
name="14d02c0aa147c425__MailEndCompose"></a><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u> \
<u></u></span></p> <div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> \
Tommy Schlotterer [mailto:<a href="mailto:tschlotterer@netechcorp.com" \
target="_blank">tschlotterer@netechcorp.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2015 4:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Huff; Jason Aarons (AM); <a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu" \
target="_blank">bmeade90@vt.edu</a><br> <b>Cc:</b> <a \
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" \
target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] \
Phone Restart on Subscriber add<u></u><u></u></span></p> </div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>  <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">It's \
not a full reboot, looks just like an apply config, just enough for users to \
complain.<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u> \
<u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Tommy<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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 </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3c61af">Systems \
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 <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
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<u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Ryan \
Huff [<a href="mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com" \
target="_blank">mailto:ryanhuff@outlook.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2015 3:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jason Aarons, (AM); <a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu" \
target="_blank">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>; Tommy Schlotterer<br> <b>Cc:</b> <a \
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" \
target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] \
Phone Restart on Subscriber add<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> \
<u></u></p> <p>I&#39;ll have to lab this up and see what I am missing; last week I \
added a 9.1.x cluster node and I didnt get any phone bounces during the \
install.<u></u><u></u></p> <p>Strange.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Ryan<u></u><u></u></p>
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<br>
-------- Original Message --------<br>
From: &quot;Jason Aarons (AM)&quot; &lt;<a \
href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" \
                target="_blank">jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 02:54 PM<br>
To: Brian Meade &lt;<a href="mailto:bmeade90@vt.edu" \
target="_blank">bmeade90@vt.edu</a>&gt;,Tommy Schlotterer &lt;<a \
href="mailto:tschlotterer@netechcorp.com" \
                target="_blank">tschlotterer@netechcorp.com</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Phone Restart on Subscriber add<br>
CC: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" \
target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><u></u><u></u></p> <div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">So \
building the subscriber resets all phones in cluster to download updated Trust \
List?</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> \
</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">It \
has nothing to do with adding subscriber to the CallManager group the phone is \
using?</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> \
</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">I've \
heard of this issue but wasn't clear (or forgot) about the \
specifics.</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> \
</span><u></u><u></u></p> <div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> \
cisco-voip [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" \
target="_blank">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of \
</b>Brian Meade<br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2015 3:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tommy Schlotterer<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" \
target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] \
Phone Restart on Subscriber add</span><u></u><u></u></p> </div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">  <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">  <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">There&#39;s an option during the install to just check \
connectivity and then wait for the full install.   That&#39;s as far as you can go \
without resetting all the phones unfortunately.<u></u><u></u></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">  <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Tommy Schlotterer &lt;<a \
href="mailto:tschlotterer@netechcorp.com" \
target="_blank">tschlotterer@netechcorp.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p> \
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in \
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Yes, \
I do understand that. I just need to know when in the install, The customer doesn't \
want a 4  hour maintenance window to install a new node.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> \
</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Tommy</span><u></u><u></u></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> \
</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3c61af">Tommy \
Schlotterer</span></b><span \
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3c61af">
 </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#eca83c">|
 </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3c61af">Systems \
Engineer</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3c61af">CCNA, \
CCNA Voice</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3a5fad">48325 \
Alpha Dr. Ste. 150</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3a5fad">Wixom, \
MI 48393</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3a5fad">p</span></b><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3a5fad">
 <a href="tel:248.468.0710" target="_blank">248.468.0710</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3a5fad">e</span></b><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3a5fad">
 </span><a href="mailto:tschlotterer@netechcorp.com" target="_blank"><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">tschlotterer@netechcorp.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3a5fad">w
 </span></b><a href="http://netechcorp.com/" target="_blank"><b><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">netechcorp.com</span></b></a><u></u><u></u></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"> \
<img border="0" width="580" height="129" \
alt="cid:DE00F175-A6C9-45A6-B3AC-D658551F1586"></span><u></u><u></u></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><a \
href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/75843?trk=tyah&amp;trkInfo=tarId%3A1397760375508%2Ctas%3Anetech%2Cidx%3A3-1-5" \
target="_blank"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;text-decoration:none"><img \
border="0" width="30" height="30" \
alt="cid:62EB95BF-20B4-4A1B-98FE-9E042594730A"></span></a><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"> \
</span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/NetechCorporation" target="_blank"><span \
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alt="cid:47C21B6C-578D-4D72-BFF4-8A482CE7A978"></span></a><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"> \
</span><a href="https://twitter.com/netechcorp" target="_blank"><span \
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border="0" width="30" height="30" \
alt="cid:A362BD4D-9EC8-47CC-96A8-8A17AF38C15C"></span></a><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"> \
</span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/NetechCorporation" target="_blank"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black;text-decoration:none"><img \
border="0" width="30" height="30" \
alt="cid:F52A69B8-DA49-4CD7-91E9-C057917D90C2"></span></a><u></u><u></u></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> \
</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> <a \
href="mailto:bmeade90@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmeade90@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a \
href="mailto:bmeade90@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmeade90@gmail.com</a>] <b>On Behalf \
Of </b>Brian Meade<br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2015 3:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tommy Schlotterer<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" \
target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] \
Phone Restart on Subscriber add</span><u></u><u></u></p> <div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">  <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">It happens when the cluster becomes aware of the new nodes \
certificates.   It adds a new TVS entry to the ITL of each node and resets the phones \
to ensure they download the new ITL  before any other ITL changes are made.   This is \
to prevent too many changes happening the ITLs at once making the phones not trust \
the new ITLs.<u></u><u></u></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">  <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Tommy Schlotterer &lt;<a \
href="mailto:tschlotterer@netechcorp.com" \
target="_blank">tschlotterer@netechcorp.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p> \
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in \
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">All,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">  <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have a customer that is very picky on when phones will reboot \
when adding a new subscriber to a CUCM cluster.<u></u><u></u></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal">  <u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone know in what \
point the phones reboot? Right after the conntivity vierfication? Right when the new \
node is done installing?<u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal">  <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tommy<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">  <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3c61af">Tommy \
Schlotterer</span></b><span \
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3c61af">
 </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#eca83c">|
 </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3c61af">Systems \
Engineer</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#3c61af">CCNA, \
CCNA Voice</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt;color:#3a5fad">48325 Alpha Dr. Ste. \
150</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt;color:#3a5fad">Wixom, MI 48393</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:8.5pt;color:#3a5fad">p</span></b><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt;color:#3a5fad"> </span><a href="tel:248.468.0710" \
target="_blank"><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt">248.468.0710</span></a><u></u><u></u></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:8.5pt;color:#3a5fad">e</span></b><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt;color:#3a5fad"> </span><a \
href="mailto:tschlotterer@netechcorp.com" target="_blank"><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt">tschlotterer@netechcorp.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:8.5pt;color:#3a5fad">w </span></b><a \
href="http://netechcorp.com/" target="_blank"><b><span \
style="font-size:8.5pt">netechcorp.com</span></b></a><u></u><u></u></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">  <img border="0" width="580" \
height="129" alt="cid:DE00F175-A6C9-45A6-B3AC-D658551F1586"></span><u></u><u></u></p> \
<p class="MsoNormal"><a \
href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/75843?trk=tyah&amp;trkInfo=tarId%3A1397760375508%2Ctas%3Anetech%2Cidx%3A3-1-5" \
target="_blank"><span style="color:black;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" \
width="30" height="30" \
alt="cid:62EB95BF-20B4-4A1B-98FE-9E042594730A"></span></a><span style="color:black">  \
</span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/NetechCorporation" target="_blank"><span \
style="color:black;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="30" height="30" \
alt="cid:47C21B6C-578D-4D72-BFF4-8A482CE7A978"></span></a><span style="color:black">  \
</span><a href="https://twitter.com/netechcorp" target="_blank"><span \
style="color:black;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="30" height="30" \
alt="cid:A362BD4D-9EC8-47CC-96A8-8A17AF38C15C"></span></a><span style="color:black">  \
</span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/NetechCorporation" target="_blank"><span \
style="color:black;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="30" height="30" \
alt="cid:F52A69B8-DA49-4CD7-91E9-C057917D90C2"></span></a><u></u><u></u></p> <p \
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