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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] UC on UCS C-Series Datastore Setup
From: Ryan Ratliff <rratliff () cisco ! com>
Date: 2013-01-23 16:12:01
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This is the doc you would follow for that TRC.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/virtual/CUCM_BK_CA526319_00_cucm-on-virtualized-servers_chapter_00.html#CUCM_TP_C1BA71A6_00
-Ryan
On Jan 23, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Boon <ciscovoipuser@gmail.com> wrote:
The server was ordered in line with 'C220 M3S (SFF) TRC#1' so I'm assuming I'm all \
set to follow the guide?
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff@cisco.com> wrote:
How the server is configured is entirely dependent on what you purchased. If you \
bought a TRC (with a voice sku) then in order to be supported as a TRC it needs to be \
configured as such. If you did a custom build or a datacenter sku for the UCS then \
you'll be specs-based support (for UC apps) and can configure it to meet your needs.
-Ryan
On Jan 23, 2013, at 7:07 AM, Boon <ciscovoipuser@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok thanks all. I found my answer here:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/solutions/collateral/ns340/ns517/ns224/ns944/white_paper_c11-718938.html
"After you enable the virtual drives, you will be able to access them from the BIOS \
for bootup or, in the case of the HV partition, for installation of a bootable \
image."
It seems that I misread the docs and the flex flash drive HV partition should be used \
for storing a bootable ESXi ISO and not for installation of the OS.
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Matthew Loraditch \
<MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com> wrote: FWIW as an additional datapoint, For \
CMBE6K 9.0 new orders, the server comes semi-preconfigured and the HV is on a RAID 10 \
Virtual disk with a single datastore that the ISOs and the VMs also go on.
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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] \
On Behalf Of Boon
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:26 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] UC on UCS C-Series Datastore Setup
Thanks Ryan. It's confusing as the setup guide that comes with the C220-M3 provides \
steps indicating that that the HV should be installed on one of the VD on the flash \
drive.
Are you saying that this should be ignored for UC on UCS installs and the previous \
method of installing the HV on the HDD should be followed?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff@cisco.com> wrote:
Keep in mind that deviating from our install guides on a TRC drops you back to \
specs-based support in terms of UC on UCS. Not that you will have any issues but it \
is something you need to be aware of in the case that things really start to go \
south.
I'm sure the 2 array configuration was done both data protection and for performance. \
We haven't found any real benefit to using the flexible flash drives for TRCs (since \
we aren't limited by disk space and the hypervisor mostly runs in RAM anyway) which \
is why it isn't included in our guides.
-Ryan
On Jan 22, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Boon <ciscovoipuser@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the info Ryan and Jason.
I'm deploying a C-220-M3 server with a Flexible Flash card which as 4 virtual drives \
with a dedicated one for VM onto which I have installed ESXi hypervisor. Therefore \
I'm guessing that the two RAID arrays approach was meant for earlier c-series models \
without flash cards right?
I've setup the HDD as a single RAID5 which is inline with the tested reference guide \
on the UCS wiki. I just want to know if I can create a single datastore or whether \
it's better practice to create two and keep the ISO discs separate. I think the VM \
doc will give me the answer hopefully. Thanks.
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff@cisco.com> wrote:
If you have a TRC then you can find instructions in here:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/virtual/CUCM_BK_CA526319_00_cucm-on-virtualized-servers_chapter_00.html
If you are specs-based, then it's expected you know how to structure your \
datastore(s) to meet your needs so there won't be specific instructions.
All of our docs that I've run through have instructions for configuring two separate \
RAID arrays, one for ESXi and ISOs, and another for VMs. The ones I've done have \
been RAID 1 and RAID 5 (respectively) and these are usually done at the same time, \
before you install ESXi.
-Ryan
On Jan 22, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Boon <ciscovoipuser@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I'm in the process of building my first C-Series UCS server from scratch.
I've configured RAID, installed ESXi and have logged into vSphere. I need to \
configure a datastore which I'm ok with.
I have a question regarding the datastore setup. Is there any recommendations from \
Cisco on how to configure these logically?
I've seen a couple of installs that have two datastores, one for VMs and another for \
ISO images etc for quick rebuilds..
I have a 1.9TB of disk space to use and I'd like to set it up in line with best \
practice if I can.
Thanks,
Rab
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space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">This is the doc you would follow for \
that TRC.<div><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/virtual/CUCM \
_BK_CA526319_00_cucm-on-virtualized-servers_chapter_00.html#CUCM_TP_C1BA71A6_00">http: \
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apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: \
separate; font-family: Helvetica; border-spacing: 0px; ">-Ryan</span>
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<br><div><div>On Jan 23, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Boon <<a \
href="mailto:ciscovoipuser@gmail.com">ciscovoipuser@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br \
class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div dir="ltr">The server was ordered in line with \
'C220 M3S (SFF) TRC#1' so I'm assuming I'm all set to follow the \
guide?<div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div><div style=""><br></div></div></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:35 \
PM, Ryan Ratliff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" \
target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div style="word-wrap:break-word">How the server is \
configured is entirely dependent on what you purchased. If you bought a TRC \
(with a voice sku) then in order to be supported as a TRC it needs to be configured \
as such. If you did a custom build or a datacenter sku for the UCS then you'll \
be specs-based support (for UC apps) and can configure it to meet your needs.<div> \
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><div> <span \
style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:auto;font- \
style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;border-collapse:separate;text-trans \
form:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica;word-spacing:0px">-Ryan</span>
</div></font></span><div><div class="h5">
<br><div><div>On Jan 23, 2013, at 7:07 AM, Boon <<a \
href="mailto:ciscovoipuser@gmail.com" target="_blank">ciscovoipuser@gmail.com</a>> \
wrote:</div><br><div dir="ltr">Ok thanks all. I found my answer here:<div><br></div> \
<div><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/solutions/collateral/ns340/ns517/ns224/ns944/white_paper_c11-718938.html" \
target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/solutions/collateral/ns340/ns517/ns224/ns944/white_paper_c11-718938.html</a></div>
<div><div><br></div><div><span \
style="font-family:Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><i>"After you \
enable the virtual drives, you will be able to access them from the BIOS for bootup \
or, <b>in the case of the HV partition, for installation of a bootable \
image.</b>"</i></span><br>
</div></div><div><span \
style="font-family:Arial,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><i><br></i></span></div><div><font \
face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12px">It seems \
that I misread the docs and the flex flash drive HV partition should be used for \
storing a bootable ESXi ISO and not for installation of the OS.</span></font></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 \
at 11:37 AM, Matthew Loraditch <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" \
target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">FWIW \
as an additional datapoint, For CMBE6K 9.0 new orders, the server comes \
semi-preconfigured and the HV is on a RAID 10 Virtual disk with a single datastore \
that the ISOs and the VMs also go on.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p \
class="MsoNormal"> <span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Matthew \
G. Loraditch – CCNP-Voice, CCNA, CCDA<br>
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><br>
1965 Greenspring Drive</span><span \
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MD 21093</span><span \
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class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <a \
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" \
target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a \
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" \
target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Boon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" \
target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] \
UC on UCS C-Series Datastore Setup<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p> <div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Ryan. \
It's confusing as the setup guide that comes with the C220-M3 provides steps \
indicating that that the HV should be installed on one of the VD on the flash \
drive. <u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">Are you saying that this should be ignored for UC on UCS \
installs and the previous method of installing the HV on the HDD should be \
followed?<u></u><u></u></p> </div>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Ryan Ratliff <<a \
href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> \
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc \
1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"> <div><p \
class="MsoNormal">Keep in mind that deviating from our install guides on a TRC drops \
you back to specs-based support in terms of UC on UCS. Not that you will have \
any issues but it is something you need to be aware of in the case that things really \
start to go south. <u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">I'm sure the 2 array configuration was done both data \
protection and for performance. We haven't found any real benefit to using the \
flexible flash drives for TRCs (since we aren't limited by disk space and the \
hypervisor mostly runs in RAM anyway) which is why it isn't included in our \
guides.<u></u><u></u></p> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span \
style="color:#888888"><u></u> <u></u></span></span></p> <div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#888888">-Ryan</span><span \
style="color:#888888"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">On Jan 22, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Boon <<a \
href="mailto:ciscovoipuser@gmail.com" target="_blank">ciscovoipuser@gmail.com</a>> \
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p> </div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the info Ryan and Jason. <u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">I'm deploying a C-220-M3 server with a Flexible Flash card \
which as 4 virtual drives with a dedicated one for VM onto which I have installed \
ESXi hypervisor. Therefore I'm guessing that the two RAID arrays approach was meant \
for earlier c-series models without flash cards right?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">I've setup the HDD as a single RAID5 which is inline with \
the tested reference guide on the UCS wiki. I just want to know if I can create a \
single datastore or whether it's better practice to create two and keep the ISO discs \
separate. I think the VM doc will give me the answer hopefully. \
Thanks.<u></u><u></u></p> </div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ryan Ratliff <<a \
href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> \
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc \
1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"> <div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">If you have a TRC then you can find instructions in \
here:<u></u><u></u></p> </div><p class="MsoNormal"><a \
href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/virtual/CUCM_BK_CA526319_00_cucm-on-virtualized-servers_chapter_00.html" \
target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/virtual/CUCM_BK_CA526319_00_cucm-on-virtualized-servers_chapter_00.html</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">If you are specs-based, then it's expected you know how to \
structure your datastore(s) to meet your needs so there won't be specific \
instructions.<u></u><u></u></p> </div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">All of our docs that I've run through have instructions for \
configuring two separate RAID arrays, one for ESXi and ISOs, and another for VMs. \
The ones I've done have been RAID 1 and RAID 5 (respectively) and these are \
usually done at the same time, before you install ESXi. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">-Ryan</span> \
<u></u><u></u></p> </div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">On Jan 22, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Boon <<a \
href="mailto:ciscovoipuser@gmail.com" target="_blank">ciscovoipuser@gmail.com</a>> \
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p> </div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi, <u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">I'm in the process of building my first C-Series UCS server \
from scratch. <u></u><u></u></p> </div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">I've configured RAID, installed ESXi and have logged into \
vSphere. I need to configure a datastore which I'm ok with. <u></u><u></u></p> \
</div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">I have a question regarding the datastore setup. Is there \
any recommendations from Cisco on how to configure these logically?<u></u><u></u></p> \
</div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">I've seen a couple of installs that have two datastores, \
one for VMs and another for ISO images etc for quick rebuilds..<u></u><u></u></p> \
</div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">I have a 1.9TB of disk space to use and I'd like to set it \
up in line with best practice if I can. <u></u><u></u></p> </div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
Thanks, <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
Rab<u></u><u></u></p>
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