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Subject: Re: [cifs-protocol] [MS-DTYP] Conditional ACE Unicode literal SDDL format - TrackingID#2302240040001
From: "Jeff McCashland \(He/him\) via cifs-protocol" <cifs-protocol () lists ! samba ! org>
Date: 2023-02-24 17:51:12
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Hi Douglas,
I will look into this and get back to you.
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From: Douglas Bagnall <douglas.bagnall@catalyst.net.nz>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2023 6:10 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [MS-DTYP] Conditional ACE Unicode literal SDDL format
hi Dochelp,
I am interested in the details of the format for conditional ACE SDDL format, which \
is not really described in [MS-DTYP] (unlike the wire format).
From the examples, it is clear that it involves double-quote delimiters:
(Title=="VP")
But how are escapes handled -- how would it handle a string that itself contained a \
double quote?
In the ABNF there is a thing called "char-string":
char-string = DQUOTE *(CHAR) DQUOTE
which we can deduce applies to Unicode strings due to the definition of value-array, \
but this doesn't answer the question. Rather, it expands it, since RFC5234 says CHAR \
is 7-bit ASCII only, precluding most Unicode values, so there must be an escaping \
mechanism for these characters too (unless the use of CHAR is mistaken).
My guess is that Unicode strings the same %hhhh sequence as attr-char2 (encoding the \
double quote as %0022), but there is no mention of that.
cheers,
Douglas
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style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Hung-Chun Yu \
<HungChun.Yu@microsoft.com><br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 23, 2023 8:45 \
PM<br> <b>To:</b> Douglas Bagnall <douglas.bagnall@catalyst.net.nz>; \
cifs-protocol@lists.samba.org <cifs-protocol@lists.samba.org><br> <b>Cc:</b> \
Hung-Chun Yu <HungChun.Yu@microsoft.com>; Microsoft Support \
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Hi Douglas<br>
<br>
Thank you for contacting Microsoft Open Specifications Support. We created SR Case - \
TrackingID#2302240040001164 to track the issue. Please do leave this tag in the \
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Hung-Chun Yu<br>
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Microsoft Open Specifications<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Douglas Bagnall <douglas.bagnall@catalyst.net.nz> <br>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2023 6:10 PM<br>
To: cifs-protocol@lists.samba.org; Interoperability Documentation Help \
<dochelp@microsoft.com><br>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [MS-DTYP] Conditional ACE Unicode literal SDDL format<br>
<br>
hi Dochelp,<br>
<br>
I am interested in the details of the format for conditional ACE SDDL format, which \
is not really described in [MS-DTYP] (unlike the wire format).<br> <br>
From the examples, it is clear that it involves double-quote delimiters:<br>
<br>
(Title=="VP")<br>
<br>
But how are escapes handled -- how would it handle a string that itself contained a \
double quote?<br> <br>
In the ABNF there is a thing called "char-string":<br>
<br>
char-string = DQUOTE *(CHAR) DQUOTE<br>
<br>
which we can deduce applies to Unicode strings due to the definition of value-array, \
but this doesn't answer the question. Rather, it expands it, since<br> RFC5234 says \
CHAR is 7-bit ASCII only, precluding most Unicode values, so there must be an \
escaping mechanism for these characters too (unless the use of CHAR is mistaken).<br> \
<br> My guess is that Unicode strings the same %hhhh sequence as attr-char2 (encoding \
the double quote as %0022), but there is no mention of that.<br> <br>
cheers,<br>
Douglas<br>
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