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Subject:    Re: [cifs-protocol] Questions about Validated-SPN validated write
From:       Dominic Salemno <doms () microsoft ! com>
Date:       2010-12-17 15:38:56
Message-ID: 5E7269F75DD68F4B9C39BDAB63595FA7083B3634 () TK5EX14MBXC137 ! redmond ! corp ! microsoft ! com
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Nadezhda Ivanova,

Someone from our team will follow-up with you shortly in regards to your qu=
estions.

Dominic Salemno
Escalation Engineer
Open Specifications

From: didrash@gmail.com [mailto:didrash@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Nadezhda Iv=
anova
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 6:08 AM
To: Interoperability Documentation Help
Cc: cifs-protocol@samba.org
Subject: Questions about Validated-SPN validated write

Hello,
Does Validated-SPN validated write allow an account to set an object's SPN =
to the following values:
HOST/samAccountName (without the "$")
HOST/dnsDomainName
if the object is a regular computer object and NOT a DC?

The algorithm described in MS-DRSR 5.5 AccessCheckWriteToSpnAttribute seems=
 to indicate that yes, this should be allowed. Ot the other hand, MS-ADTS 3=
.1.1.5.3.1.1.4 servicePrincipalName leads me to believe that the object bei=
ng a DC is mandatory constraint: "The SPN is a syntactically correct two-pa=
rt SPN, or it is a syntactically correct three-part SPN (see
Mutual Authentication (section 5.1.1.4)) and the object is a DC's domain co=
ntroller object (see
sections7.1.1.3.1 and 7.1.1.3.2). "

In addition, I did the following test:
Gave Validated-SPN right to a user on a regular computer object, and got CO=
NSTRAINT_VIOLATION when setting its servicePrincipalName with the above des=
cribed values.
Gave Validated-SPN right to a user on a DC object, and these values were se=
t successfully.

So my questions are:
Is the behaviour of setting servicePrincipalName supposed to be different b=
etween LDAP and DRS?
Does servicePrincipalName modification depend on things other then the synt=
ax restrictions described in MS-DRSR and MS-ADTS?
If an object does not have Validated-SPN on Principal-Self, should the acco=
unt still be allowed to set the above values via DRS?

Best Regards,
Nadezhda Ivanova

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier \
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New&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
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New&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">Dominic Salemno<br> \
Escalation Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">Open \
Specifications<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
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didrash@gmail.com [mailto:didrash@gmail.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nadezhda Ivanova<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 17, 2010 6:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Interoperability Documentation Help<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cifs-protocol@samba.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Questions about Validated-SPN validated write<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hello,<br>
Does Validated-SPN validated write allow an account to set an object's SPN to the \
following values:<br> HOST/samAccountName (without the &quot;$&quot;)<br>
HOST/dnsDomainName<br>
if the object is a regular computer object and NOT a DC?<br>
<br>
The algorithm described in MS-DRSR 5.5 AccessCheckWriteToSpnAttribute seems to \
indicate that yes, this should be allowed. Ot the other hand, MS-ADTS 3.1.1.5.3.1.1.4 \
servicePrincipalName leads me to believe that the object being a DC is mandatory \
constraint:  &quot;The SPN is a syntactically correct two-part SPN, or it is a \
syntactically correct three-part SPN (see<br> Mutual Authentication (section \
5.1.1.4)) and the object is a DC&#8217;s domain controller object (see<br> \
sections7.1.1.3.1 and 7.1.1.3.2). &quot;<br> <br>
In addition, I did the following test:<br>
Gave Validated-SPN right to a user on a regular computer object, and got \
CONSTRAINT_VIOLATION when setting its servicePrincipalName with the above described \
values.<br> Gave Validated-SPN right to a user on a DC object, and these values were \
set successfully.<br> <br>
So my questions are:<br>
Is the behaviour of setting servicePrincipalName supposed to be different between \
LDAP and DRS?<br> Does servicePrincipalName modification depend on things other then \
the syntax restrictions described in MS-DRSR and MS-ADTS?<br> If an object does not \
have Validated-SPN on Principal-Self, should the account still be allowed to set the \
above values via DRS?<br> <br>
Best Regards,<br>
Nadezhda Ivanova<o:p></o:p></p>
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