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Subject:    Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG:210050354365053003] more ms-dfsc.pdf
From:       Obaid Farooqi <obaidf () microsoft ! com>
Date:       2010-05-27 16:11:36
Message-ID: C76EE6B9CA401246BD8228089E50BC023EA090DE () TK5EX14MBXC121 ! redmond ! corp ! microsoft ! com
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Hi Matthieu:
I'll update you when we have finished product.

Regards,
Obaid Farooqi
Sr. Support Escalation Engineer | Microsoft

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthieu Patou [mailto:mat+Informatique.Samba@matws.net] 
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 10:58 PM
To: Obaid Farooqi
Cc: MSSolve Case Email; pfif@tridgell.net; cifs-protocol@samba.org
Subject: Re: [REG:210050354365053003] more ms-dfsc.pdf questions

On 23/05/2010 06:43, Obaid Farooqi wrote:
> Hi Matthieu:
> You are correct. This PDF only has additions mentioned in this email. Do want me to \
> send you the previous PDF again? 
> 
No, but I'm interested to see the final result of the different investigation when it \
will be ready.

Regards.
Matthieu Patou.
> Regards,
> Obaid Farooqi
> Sr. Support Escalation Engineer | Microsoft
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthieu Patou [mailto:mat+Informatique.Samba@matws.net]
> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 12:53 PM
> To: Obaid Farooqi
> Cc: MSSolve Case Email; pfif@tridgell.net; cifs-protocol@samba.org
> Subject: Re: [REG:210050354365053003] more ms-dfsc.pdf questions
> 
> Hi obaid,
> 
> it seems that the attached pdf didn't included result of investigation of the \
> previous batch (the one where you told me about SiteCostedReferrals parameter in \
> registry for instance) right ? 
> Matthieu.
> 
> 
> 
> On 22/05/2010 01:31, Obaid Farooqi wrote:
> 
> > With PDF attached.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Obaid Farooqi
> > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 4:28 PM
> > To: 'Matthieu Patou'
> > Cc: MSSolve Case Email; 'pfif@tridgell.net'; 'cifs-protocol@samba.org'
> > Subject: RE:[REG:210050354365053003] more ms-dfsc.pdf questions
> > 
> > Hi Matthieu:
> > We have finished our investigation on your question regarding the registry \
> > parameter effecting DFS referral and the storage of in-site settings. I have \
> > arranged the information in question answer format for clarity as follows. I have \
> > also attached a PDF file to highlight the additions. 
> > Q. Well here my question was more about the parameters, for instance the \
> > least-expensive parameter is called SiteCostedReferrals and is stored in \
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Dfs\Parameters\. At least \
> > there is the same-site parameter that influence the way DFS referral are \
> > answered, where this parameter is stored ? Is there any other parameter that \
> > influence DFS ? 
> > A. The parameter for in-site (same-site) targets is stored in Active Directory in \
> > as follows:  For DomainV1-Based DFS Namespace, the in-site setting is stored in 
> > PKT_ENTRY_TYPE_INSITE_ONLY bit in DFSRootOrLinkIDBLOB metadata, as 
> > specified in section 2.3.3.1.1.2 of MS-DFSNM
> > 
> > 	For Domainv2-Based DFS Namespace, the in-site setting is stored in \
> > InsiteReferral attribute as specified in section 2.3.4.2 of MS-DFSNM. 
> > A future release of MS-DFSC will include the following additions:
> > 
> > 3.2.5.5   Receiving a Root Referral Request or Link Referral Request
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -
> > -----------
> > 
> > If DFS in-site referral mode is enabled on the root, root referrals and link \
> > referrals return only targets that are in the same site as the client. If no root \
> > or link targets exist in the same site of the client, then no referral is \
> > returned and the client cannot access that portion of the namespace. If this \
> > setting is enabled on a link, and no link targets exist in the same site of the \
> > client, then no referral is returned and the client cannot access the link.  
> > 3.3.5.3   Receiving a DC Referral Request
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > If preferred logon is enabled on domain controller<WBN 1>, then the 
> > server MUST place itself on top of the DC referral response
> > 
> > <WBN 1>   On Windows-based domain controller preferred logon is enabled by \
> > setting PreferlogonDC value in the registry key \
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Dfs\Parameters\ to 1 (see \
> > MSKB-831201). 
> > 
> > 3.3.5.4   Receiving a sysvol Referral Request
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > If preferred logon is enabled on domain controller<WBN 2>, then the 
> > server MUST place itself on top of the DC referral response
> > 
> > <WBN 2>   On Windows-based domain controller preferred logon is enabled by \
> > setting PreferlogonDC value in the registry key \
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Dfs\Parameters\ to 1(see \
> > MSKB-831201). 
> > 
> > 
> > After the addition of the parameter mentioned above, all the registry parameters \
> > that effect DFS referral are documented in MS-DFSC. 
> > 
> > 
> > Q.
> > 	>   Q. Ok so we consider that a client not within a site has all the DCs out of \
> > his site right ?  >
> > 	>   A. If the client has no IP address to Site mapping in AD, then the targets \
> > in the referral response would be sorted randomly.  >
> > 	Ok, that's clear. Does the "same site" setting have an influence on this ?
> > 	Will this information be added somehow in the MS-DFSC ?
> > 
> > A. As I have already communicated in an earlier email, same-site (in-site) \
> > setting has no effect on DC referral. The additions to MS-DFSC mentioned above \
> > make it clear that in-site setting only effect root and link referrals. 
> > My answer "If the client has no IP address to Site mapping in AD, then the \
> > targets in the referral response would be sorted randomly." is drawn from the \
> > following additions to MS-DFSC that I have already communicated in an email dated \
> > May 11, 2010: 
> > 3.3.1.1 Algorithm for sorting target sites in referral response based on site \
> > location DFS server places target servers in the referral response in the \
> >                 following order:
> > 	-  Targets in the same site as the client are listed at the top of the referral \
> >                 response in random order.
> > 	-  Targets outside of the client's site are appended to the response in random \
> > order. 
> > Please let me know if it answers your questions. If it does, I'll consider this \
> > issue resolved. 
> > Regards,
> > Obaid Farooqi
> > Sr. Support Escalation Engineer | Microsoft
> > 
> > 
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