This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --===============3312055721194141647== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aDrlssWeUrdQ5UuaXAt9L9KC4CPtOW3aw" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --aDrlssWeUrdQ5UuaXAt9L9KC4CPtOW3aw Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="b9tMkJxq0ubrXUNPODOQXAxrLjOG8XC8v"; protected-headers="v1" From: Johnny Hughes To: centos-docs@centos.org Message-ID: <31b52a95-e95f-9dff-34a2-f70813b77f5c@hughesjr.com> Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] wiki.centos.org .. what's next ? References: <76f2ab38-fff4-9117-3956-4921104fb04c@centos.org> In-Reply-To: --b9tMkJxq0ubrXUNPODOQXAxrLjOG8XC8v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/12/2017 10:29 AM, Fabian Arrotin wrote: > On 12/12/17 17:25, Akemi Yagi wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 1:00 AM, Fabian Arrotin > > wrote: >> >> it's all in the title : what's next for wiki.centos.org >> ? >> >> As a reminder, current wiki.centos.org >> instance is powered by moinmoin >> (https://moinmo.in/) but quite an old version (moin-1.5.8-3.el6.no= arch) >> >> Recently I had a quick look at trying to update/upgrade that versi= on to >> something newer/supported, but it's a nightmare : the data convers= ion >> just kill the target server (oom) and no way to know why. When try= ing to >> get help from moin people in their irc server, I was answered that= such >> old version wasn't supported, and that those upgrade scripts thems= elves >> aren't supported either, so nobody would help finding why they'd b= e >> buggy without having access to the full data. >> >> Of course exposing the whole wiki instance (including user/pass) i= sn't >> an option, so except if somebody has really a clue about what can = go >> wrong with the update script from 1.5 to 1.6 (and then it has to b= e done >> for each major.minor upgrade, so all that in a chained operation),= the >> migration will be impossible. >> >> That's why I'd like to discuss a possibility to move wiki to somet= hing >> else, and that's even why we should discuss the need for a wiki it= self. >> >> If we want to continue to have community written/maintained conten= t, >> should be still use a wiki or something else ? Moin was selected ~= 10y >> ago for its simplicity and online editing, but in 2017, most peopl= e (dev >> and ops) are probably using other workflows, like git/pull-request= s/etc. >> >> So what about exploring other possibilities ? >> >> I don't have a real proposal (even if mkdocs.org >> , simple solution with >> Markdown, combined with git would be perfect for me) but just want= ed to >> start a dedicated thread so that we can think about the future of >> wiki.centos.org >> >> Opinions ? Proposals ? anything else ? Fee free to comment :-) >> >> >> =E2=80=8BI personally would like to see an update to the current wiki=E2= =80=8B. However >> if this is not plausible, maybe an alternative like mediawiki can be >> considered? >> >> One note I want to make is that use of git may not be suitable/best fo= r >> docs and certainly will be frowned upon by some notable contributors t= o >> the current wiki. >> >> Akemi >> >=20 > *ack* >=20 > So maybe we should try to reach out the moinmoin people to see if they'= d > like to see us continuing using moin or switch to something else. >=20 > Mediawiki can be investigated, as that's also Fedora switched to in the= > past. > So we already know that : > - openid auth works (against FAS, so that will work with ACO) > - they probably had some migration scripts somewhere that we can test i= f > needed) I don't really have any preferences .. other than, not github, unless it is the ONLY thing that would work. I have an issue using non open source solution unless it is a last resort, --b9tMkJxq0ubrXUNPODOQXAxrLjOG8XC8v-- --aDrlssWeUrdQ5UuaXAt9L9KC4CPtOW3aw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlowFToACgkQTKkMgmrBY7Oa6QCgoQkUNfZ5vsPkKAT4Dszmb7/e MeIAn2ZlsXSuAfoGkMG8INo16aeAv/vZ =6wgA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aDrlssWeUrdQ5UuaXAt9L9KC4CPtOW3aw-- --===============3312055721194141647== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs --===============3312055721194141647==--