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List:       cassandra-dev
Subject:    Re: [DISCUSS] Creating a new slack channel for newcomers
From:       Henrik Ingo <henrik.ingo () datastax ! com>
Date:       2021-11-12 23:23:13
Message-ID: CAFvGCnm48uyAs1CEPXBoD5uSqHiV1uv274jCdctEWajLuvcOmA () mail ! gmail ! com
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Btw, it would be possible to have a welcome-bot on Slack. It would
recognize new users joining the channel, and send them some friendly
message. Part of the message could be the list of friendly volunteers
available to help newcomers.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 6:57 PM Benjamin Lerer <b.lerer@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks a lot everybody for the feedback.
> 
> It sounds that most of you are not convinced by the slack channel but
> believe that a list of newcomer mentors will be more efficient.
> That sounds like a good approach to me.
> 
> I will start a new discussion to collect the list of volunteers.
> 
> Le mar. 9 nov. 2021 à 17:12, Joseph Lynch <joe.e.lynch@gmail.com> a écrit
> > 
> 
> > I also feel that having all the resources to get help in more or less
> > one place (#cassandra-dev slack / ML) probably helps newcomers on the
> > whole since they can ask questions and likely engage with someone who
> > can help. I know that I've asked a few silly questions in
> > #cassandra-dev and appreciated that there were more experienced
> > project members to help answer them.
> > 
> > If we wanted to have a set of designated "newcomer mentors" or some
> > such that seems useful in addition. Perhaps their email/handles on the
> > website in the contributing section with an encouragement to ask them
> > first if you're unsure who to ask?
> > 
> > -Joey
> > 
> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 10:16 AM Sumanth Pasupuleti
> > <sumanth.pasupuleti.is@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > +1 that existing channels of communication (cassandra-dev slack and
> > mailing
> > > lists) should ideally suffice, and I have not seen prohibitive
> > > communication in those forums thus far that goes against newcomers. I
> > agree
> > > it can be intimidating, but to Bowen's point, the more traffic we see
> > > around newcomers in those forums, the more comfortable it gets.
> > > I agree starting a new channel is a low effort experiment we can do,
> but
> > > the success depends on finding mentors and the engagement of mentors
> vs I
> > > believe engagement in #cassandra-dev is almost guaranteed given the
> high
> > > number of people in the channel.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Sumanth
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 6:47 AM Bowen Song <bowen@bso.ng.invalid>
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > As a newcomer (made two commits since October) who has been watching
> > > > this mailing list since then, I don't like the idea of a separate
> > > > channel for beginner questions. The volume in this mailing list is
> > > > fairly low, I can't see any legitimate reason for diverting a portion
> > of
> > > > that into another channel, further reducing the volume in the
> existing
> > > > channel and perhaps not creating much volume in the new channel
> either.
> > > > 
> > > > Personally, I think a clearly written and easy to find community
> > > > guideline highlighting that this mailing list is suitable for
> beginner
> > > > questions, and give some suggestions/recommendations on when, where
> and
> > > > how to ask beginner questions would be more useful.
> > > > 
> > > > At the moment because the volume of beginner questions is very very
> low
> > > > in this mailing list, newcomers like me don't feel comfortable asking
> > > > questions here. That's not because there's 600 pair of eyes watching
> > > > this (TBH, if you didn't mention it, I wouldn't have noticed it), but
> > > > because the herd mentality. If not many questions are asked here,
> most
> > > > people won't start doing that. It's all about creating the
> environment
> > > > that makes people feel comfortable asking questions here.
> > > > 
> > > > On 08/11/2021 16:28, Benjamin Lerer wrote:
> > > > > Hi everybody,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Aleksei Zotov mentioned to me that it was a bit intimidating for
> > > > newcomers
> > > > > to ask beginner questions in the cassandra-dev channel as it has
> > over 600
> > > > > followers and that we should probably have a specific channel for
> > > > > newcomers.
> > > > > This proposal makes total sense to me.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What is your opinion on this? Do you have any concerns about it?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Benjamin
> > > > > 
> > > > 
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