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Subject:    RE: Krita donation proposal
From:       chantale leclerc <essania-kashaya () hotmail ! com>
Date:       2021-11-17 15:29:47
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Good day. What is all thiscabout who are you what you doing sending mevthos=
e messages saying you take my money?

I am Chantale Leclerc. Not someone else? What you trying To do there this i=
s none sence.



Envoy=E9 depuis mon appareil Galaxy



-------- Message d'origine --------
De : Camilla Boemann <cbo@boemann.dk>
Date : 21-11-16 05 h 42 (GMT-05:00)
=C0 : calligra-devel@kde.org
Objet : Re: Krita donation proposal

I'm fine with Krita and Plan taking everything. The money needs to work and=
 not gather dust. And Krita seems a worthy candidate. If the donor agrees I=
 don't know, but I would certainly support it.

Camilla Boemann
Calligra Words maintainer (by name mostly)

On 16/11/2021 11.35.31, Halla Rempt <boud@valdyas.org> wrote:

Hi,

The KDE e.V. board still sits on this money, since there's almost nothing h=
appening in calligra land. Of everything that used to be Calligra, only Pla=
n and Krita show activity. Kexi also seems dormant. But the board needs to =
spend that money, so what should we do?

Not that I want to be greedy, but if Calligra cannot spend it on anything, =
I'm find with taking a larger share for Krita... And is there a way to spen=
d it on Plan?

Cheers,

Halla Rempt

On woensdag 17 oktober 2018 10:35:30 CET Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote:
> Yes, i agree with Dag. Handshake's donation does seem to have been a
> historical congratulations type thing more than anything else, so certain=
ly
> Krita deserves a chunk of this.
>
> On Wednesday, 17 October 2018 09:31:54 BST Dag wrote:
> > Imho, a good idea. Does not seem krita gets anything directly, maybe
> > because it is considdered part of calligra.
> >
> > ---
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dag
> >
> > Jaroslaw Staniek skrev den 2018-10-16 18:06:
> > > Dear Calligra contributors,
> > > Congratulations again on the donation [1] and big thanks to the
> > > Handshake Foundation for recognizing Calligra!
> > >
> > > tl;dr: I'd like to propose that 10% of the sum goes to support Krita.
> > >
> > > Introduction
> > >
> > > As person helping with completing the donation process I'd like to
> > > repeat the fact that Calligra was recognized by the Handshake
> > > Foundation as an organization having specific achievements in the FOS=
S
> > > world. The Foundation decided to offer the donation unconditionally
> > > and independently of the KDE's one.
> > >
> > > Unlike other "Office" projects Calligra has no dedicated foundation s=
o
> > > the solution was to join KDE e.V. on the task around the bookkeeping
> > > and related matters and to ensure transparency. It also felt most
> > > natural since we're KDE. So there was no decision of the KDE board or
> > > KDE community to split the one fund to Calligra and the rest of KDE,
> > > there are two funds.
> > >
> > > Details
> > >
> > > Now that we're around next, harder step, I'd like to share my positio=
n
> > > that addresses possible question of the contributors and fans: what
> > > with supporting Krita?
> > >
> > > Based on what I learned from the donor the funding is based on
> > > recognition for the *entire* history of KOffice/Calligra so Krita
> > > being important member of our family, not only can but *should* be
> > > included i nthe support. Krita has been on the same level of
> > > organization as other Calligra applications until 2.9 version [2].
> > > There were 10 visible Calligra apps, not counting variations of apps
> > > like mobile or Active and the Office Engine. So I'd like to propose
> > > that 10% of the sum goes to support Krita, formally the Krita
> > > Foundation.
> > >
> > > Assertions
> > >
> > > This is my idea, without any requests from the Krita side. And for my
> > > understanding the idea does not limit possibility of Krita or current
> > > Calligra to benefit from the "KDE" donation, especially indirectly,
> > > e.g. through the shared infrastructure and common development
> > > programs.
> > >
> > > Common sense suggest me reasonable requirement for supporting Calligr=
a
> > > sub-projects: they needs to be active (have relatively recent
> > > releases) with potential to growth, and activity should be
> > > sufficiently independent of existence of the attractive funding that
> > > was received. I think Krita meets these requirements.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > > https://dot.kde.org/2018/10/15/kde-ev-receives-sizeable-donation-hand=
shake
> > > -foundation [2] https://www.calligra.org/krita
> > > --
> > >
> > > regards, Jaroslaw Staniek
> > >
> > > KDE:
> > > : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers,
> > >
> > > translators
> > >
> > > : and facilitators committed to Free Software development -
> > >
> > > http://kde.org
> > >
> > > KEXI:
> > > : A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
> > > :
> > > http://twitter.com/kexi_project https://facebook.com/kexi.project
> > >
> > > Qt Certified Specialist:
> > > : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek
>
>
>





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<div>-------- Message d'origine --------</div>
<div>De : Camilla Boemann &lt;cbo@boemann.dk&gt; </div>
<div>Date : 21-11-16 05 h 42 (GMT-05:00) </div>
<div>À : calligra-devel@kde.org </div>
<div>Objet : Re: Krita donation proposal </div>
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<div id="__MailbirdStyleContent" style="font-size:8pt; font-family:Arial; \
color:#000000"> I'm fine with Krita and Plan taking everything. The money needs to \
work and not gather dust. And Krita seems a worthy candidate. If the donor agrees I \
don't know, but I would certainly support it. <div><br>
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<div>Camilla Boemann</div>
<div>Calligra Words maintainer (by name mostly)<br>
<div class="mb_sig"></div>
<blockquote class="history_container" type="cite" style="border-left-style:solid; \
border-width:1px; margin-top:20px; margin-left:0px; padding-left:10px"> <p \
style="color:#AAAAAA; margin-top:10px">On 16/11/2021 11.35.31, Halla Rempt \
&lt;boud@valdyas.org&gt; wrote:</p> <div \
style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Hi, <br> <br>
The KDE e.V. board still sits on this money, since there's almost nothing happening \
in calligra land. Of everything that used to be Calligra, only Plan and Krita show \
activity. Kexi also seems dormant. But the board needs to spend that money, so what \
should  we do? <br>
<br>
Not that I want to be greedy, but if Calligra cannot spend it on anything, I'm find \
with taking a larger share for Krita... And is there a way to spend it on Plan? <br>
<br>
Cheers, <br>
<br>
Halla Rempt <br>
<br>
On woensdag 17 oktober 2018 10:35:30 CET Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: <br>
&gt; Yes, i agree with Dag. Handshake's donation does seem to have been a <br>
&gt; historical congratulations type thing more than anything else, so certainly <br>
&gt; Krita deserves a chunk of this. <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; On Wednesday, 17 October 2018 09:31:54 BST Dag wrote: <br>
&gt; &gt; Imho, a good idea. Does not seem krita gets anything directly, maybe <br>
&gt; &gt; because it is considdered part of calligra. <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; --- <br>
&gt; &gt; Cheers, <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Dag <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Jaroslaw Staniek skrev den 2018-10-16 18:06: <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Dear Calligra contributors, <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Congratulations again on the donation [1] and big thanks to the <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Handshake Foundation for recognizing Calligra! <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; tl;dr: I'd like to propose that 10% of the sum goes to support Krita. \
<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Introduction <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; As person helping with completing the donation process I'd like to \
<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; repeat the fact that Calligra was recognized by the Handshake \
<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; Foundation as an organization having specific achievements in the \
FOSS <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; world. The Foundation decided to offer the donation \
unconditionally <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; and independently of the KDE's one. <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Unlike other &quot;Office&quot; projects Calligra has no dedicated \
foundation so <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; the solution was to join KDE e.V. on the task \
around the bookkeeping <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; and related matters and to ensure \
transparency. It also felt most <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; natural since we're KDE. So there \
was no decision of the KDE board or <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; KDE community to split the \
one fund to Calligra and the rest of KDE, <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; there are two funds. \
<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Details <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Now that we're around next, harder step, I'd like to share my position \
<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; that addresses possible question of the contributors and fans: \
what <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; with supporting Krita? <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Based on what I learned from the donor the funding is based on <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; recognition for the *entire* history of KOffice/Calligra so Krita <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; being important member of our family, not only can but *should* be \
<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; included i nthe support. Krita has been on the same level of <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; organization as other Calligra applications until 2.9 version [2]. \
<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; There were 10 visible Calligra apps, not counting variations of \
apps <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; like mobile or Active and the Office Engine. So I'd like to \
propose <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; that 10% of the sum goes to support Krita, formally the \
Krita <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; Foundation. <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Assertions <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; This is my idea, without any requests from the Krita side. And for my \
<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; understanding the idea does not limit possibility of Krita or \
current <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; Calligra to benefit from the &quot;KDE&quot; donation, \
especially indirectly, <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; e.g. through the shared infrastructure and \
common development <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; programs. <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Common sense suggest me reasonable requirement for supporting Calligra \
<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; sub-projects: they needs to be active (have relatively recent \
<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; releases) with potential to growth, and activity should be <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; sufficiently independent of existence of the attractive funding that \
<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; was received. I think Krita meets these requirements. <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; [1] <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; https://dot.kde.org/2018/10/15/kde-ev-receives-sizeable-donation-handshake \
<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; -foundation [2] https://www.calligra.org/krita <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; -- <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; regards, Jaroslaw Staniek <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; KDE: <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; translators <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; : and facilitators committed to Free Software development - <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; http://kde.org <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; KEXI: <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; : A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; : <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; http://twitter.com/kexi_project https://facebook.com/kexi.project <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Qt Certified Specialist: <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
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