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Subject: Re: Krita donation proposal
From: "Camilla Boemann" <cbo () boemann ! dk>
Date: 2021-11-16 10:41:47
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I'm fine with Krita and Plan taking everything. The money needs to work and=
not gather dust. And Krita seems a worthy candidate. If the donor agrees I=
don't know, but I would certainly support it.
Camilla Boemann
Calligra Words maintainer (by name mostly)
On 16/11/2021 11.35.31, Halla Rempt <boud@valdyas.org> wrote:
Hi,
The KDE e.V. board still sits on this money, since there's almost nothing h=
appening in calligra land. Of everything that used to be Calligra, only Pla=
n and Krita show activity. Kexi also seems dormant. But the board needs to =
spend that money, so what should we do?
Not that I want to be greedy, but if Calligra cannot spend it on anything, =
I'm find with taking a larger share for Krita... And is there a way to spen=
d it on Plan?
Cheers,
Halla Rempt
On woensdag 17 oktober 2018 10:35:30 CET Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote:
> Yes, i agree with Dag. Handshake's donation does seem to have been a
> historical congratulations type thing more than anything else, so certain=
ly
> Krita deserves a chunk of this.
>
> On Wednesday, 17 October 2018 09:31:54 BST Dag wrote:
> > Imho, a good idea. Does not seem krita gets anything directly, maybe
> > because it is considdered part of calligra.
> >
> > ---
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dag
> >
> > Jaroslaw Staniek skrev den 2018-10-16 18:06:
> > > Dear Calligra contributors,
> > > Congratulations again on the donation [1] and big thanks to the
> > > Handshake Foundation for recognizing Calligra!
> > >
> > > tl;dr: I'd like to propose that 10% of the sum goes to support Krita.
> > >
> > > Introduction
> > >
> > > As person helping with completing the donation process I'd like to
> > > repeat the fact that Calligra was recognized by the Handshake
> > > Foundation as an organization having specific achievements in the FOSS
> > > world. The Foundation decided to offer the donation unconditionally
> > > and independently of the KDE's one.
> > >
> > > Unlike other "Office" projects Calligra has no dedicated foundation so
> > > the solution was to join KDE e.V. on the task around the bookkeeping
> > > and related matters and to ensure transparency. It also felt most
> > > natural since we're KDE. So there was no decision of the KDE board or
> > > KDE community to split the one fund to Calligra and the rest of KDE,
> > > there are two funds.
> > >
> > > Details
> > >
> > > Now that we're around next, harder step, I'd like to share my position
> > > that addresses possible question of the contributors and fans: what
> > > with supporting Krita?
> > >
> > > Based on what I learned from the donor the funding is based on
> > > recognition for the *entire* history of KOffice/Calligra so Krita
> > > being important member of our family, not only can but *should* be
> > > included i nthe support. Krita has been on the same level of
> > > organization as other Calligra applications until 2.9 version [2].
> > > There were 10 visible Calligra apps, not counting variations of apps
> > > like mobile or Active and the Office Engine. So I'd like to propose
> > > that 10% of the sum goes to support Krita, formally the Krita
> > > Foundation.
> > >
> > > Assertions
> > >
> > > This is my idea, without any requests from the Krita side. And for my
> > > understanding the idea does not limit possibility of Krita or current
> > > Calligra to benefit from the "KDE" donation, especially indirectly,
> > > e.g. through the shared infrastructure and common development
> > > programs.
> > >
> > > Common sense suggest me reasonable requirement for supporting Calligra
> > > sub-projects: they needs to be active (have relatively recent
> > > releases) with potential to growth, and activity should be
> > > sufficiently independent of existence of the attractive funding that
> > > was received. I think Krita meets these requirements.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > > https://dot.kde.org/2018/10/15/kde-ev-receives-sizeable-donation-hand=
shake
> > > -foundation [2] https://www.calligra.org/krita
> > > --
> > >
> > > regards, Jaroslaw Staniek
> > >
> > > KDE:
> > > : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers,
> > >
> > > translators
> > >
> > > : and facilitators committed to Free Software development -
> > >
> > > http://kde.org
> > >
> > > KEXI:
> > > : A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
> > > :
> > > http://twitter.com/kexi_project https://facebook.com/kexi.project
> > >
> > > Qt Certified Specialist:
> > > : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek
>
>
>
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I'm fine with Krita and Plan taking \
everything. The money needs to work and not gather dust. And Krita seems a worthy \
candidate. If the donor agrees I don't know, but I would certainly support \
it.<div><br></div><div>Camilla Boemann</div><div>Calligra Words maintainer (by name \
mostly)<br><div class="mb_sig"></div><blockquote class="history_container" \
type="cite" style="border-left-style:solid;border-width:1px; margin-top:20px; \
margin-left:0px;padding-left:10px;"> <p style="color: #AAAAAA; margin-top: 10px;">On \
16/11/2021 11.35.31, Halla Rempt <boud@valdyas.org> wrote:</p><div \
style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Hi, <br>
<br>The KDE e.V. board still sits on this money, since there's almost nothing \
happening in calligra land. Of everything that used to be Calligra, only Plan and \
Krita show activity. Kexi also seems dormant. But the board needs to spend that \
money, so what should we do? <br>
<br>Not that I want to be greedy, but if Calligra cannot spend it on anything, I'm \
find with taking a larger share for Krita... And is there a way to spend it on Plan? \
<br> <br>Cheers,
<br>
<br>Halla Rempt
<br>
<br>On woensdag 17 oktober 2018 10:35:30 CET Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote:
<br>> Yes, i agree with Dag. Handshake's donation does seem to have been a
<br>> historical congratulations type thing more than anything else, so certainly
<br>> Krita deserves a chunk of this.
<br>>
<br>> On Wednesday, 17 October 2018 09:31:54 BST Dag wrote:
<br>> > Imho, a good idea. Does not seem krita gets anything directly, maybe
<br>> > because it is considdered part of calligra.
<br>> >
<br>> > ---
<br>> > Cheers,
<br>> >
<br>> > Dag
<br>> >
<br>> > Jaroslaw Staniek skrev den 2018-10-16 18:06:
<br>> > > Dear Calligra contributors,
<br>> > > Congratulations again on the donation [1] and big thanks to the
<br>> > > Handshake Foundation for recognizing Calligra!
<br>> > >
<br>> > > tl;dr: I'd like to propose that 10% of the sum goes to support \
Krita. <br>> > >
<br>> > > Introduction
<br>> > >
<br>> > > As person helping with completing the donation process I'd like to
<br>> > > repeat the fact that Calligra was recognized by the Handshake
<br>> > > Foundation as an organization having specific achievements in the \
FOSS <br>> > > world. The Foundation decided to offer the donation \
unconditionally <br>> > > and independently of the KDE's one.
<br>> > >
<br>> > > Unlike other "Office" projects Calligra has no dedicated \
foundation so <br>> > > the solution was to join KDE e.V. on the task around \
the bookkeeping <br>> > > and related matters and to ensure transparency. It \
also felt most <br>> > > natural since we're KDE. So there was no decision \
of the KDE board or <br>> > > KDE community to split the one fund to \
Calligra and the rest of KDE, <br>> > > there are two funds.
<br>> > >
<br>> > > Details
<br>> > >
<br>> > > Now that we're around next, harder step, I'd like to share my \
position <br>> > > that addresses possible question of the contributors and \
fans: what <br>> > > with supporting Krita?
<br>> > >
<br>> > > Based on what I learned from the donor the funding is based on
<br>> > > recognition for the *entire* history of KOffice/Calligra so Krita
<br>> > > being important member of our family, not only can but *should* be
<br>> > > included i nthe support. Krita has been on the same level of
<br>> > > organization as other Calligra applications until 2.9 version [2].
<br>> > > There were 10 visible Calligra apps, not counting variations of \
apps <br>> > > like mobile or Active and the Office Engine. So I'd like to \
propose <br>> > > that 10% of the sum goes to support Krita, formally the \
Krita <br>> > > Foundation.
<br>> > >
<br>> > > Assertions
<br>> > >
<br>> > > This is my idea, without any requests from the Krita side. And for \
my <br>> > > understanding the idea does not limit possibility of Krita or \
current <br>> > > Calligra to benefit from the "KDE" donation, especially \
indirectly, <br>> > > e.g. through the shared infrastructure and common \
development <br>> > > programs.
<br>> > >
<br>> > > Common sense suggest me reasonable requirement for supporting \
Calligra <br>> > > sub-projects: they needs to be active (have relatively \
recent <br>> > > releases) with potential to growth, and activity should be
<br>> > > sufficiently independent of existence of the attractive funding \
that <br>> > > was received. I think Krita meets these requirements.
<br>> > >
<br>> > > [1]
<br>> > > https://dot.kde.org/2018/10/15/kde-ev-receives-sizeable-donation-handshake
<br>> > > -foundation [2] https://www.calligra.org/krita
<br>> > > --
<br>> > >
<br>> > > regards, Jaroslaw Staniek
<br>> > >
<br>> > > KDE:
<br>> > > : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers,
<br>> > >
<br>> > > translators
<br>> > >
<br>> > > : and facilitators committed to Free Software development -
<br>> > >
<br>> > > http://kde.org
<br>> > >
<br>> > > KEXI:
<br>> > > : A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
<br>> > > :
<br>> > > http://twitter.com/kexi_project \
https://facebook.com/kexi.project <br>> > >
<br>> > > Qt Certified Specialist:
<br>> > > : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek
<br>>
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