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Subject:    Re: on Words
From:       Sebastian Sauer <mail () dipe ! org>
Date:       2011-10-12 5:31:39
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On 10/11/2011 01:44 PM, Pierre Stirnweiss wrote:
>
>         kotext, textlayout, textshape, words division of responsibilities
>         ------------------------------ ------------------------------
>         -----------------------
>         We should come up with a plan for how we want the code
>         structured in the long
>         run. We've come a long way already, but we should discuss what
>         further things
>         we can do.
>
>     Long-term I would like to make it easy to extend Calligra Active with
>     editing capabilities. That means our libraries and the functionality
>     provided by Words can be reused for other UI's like the QML-based
>     Active-UI, an alternate desktop-UI (think of a kids interface or an
>     interface specialized on other use-cases or an interface for different
>     form factors or one for star trek fans or whatever crazy and/or
>     innovative things a developer likes to do build up with our
>     frameworks).
>
>         KoTextEditor hacking
>         ---------------------------
>         I'd like a hacking session where we start extending the
>         functionality of
>         KoTextEditor.
>
>     What is the goal? I mean what exactly do we like to change/extend
>     in what direction? I ask cause that is not clear to me if it comes to
>     the concrete code. Maybe it's not defined yet what will be part of
>     the sprint-session?
>
>
> The above two points are on the agenda of the sprint in our brainstorm 
> session about textshape/textlayout/kotext architecture.
Great to read :-)
>
>     I btw will not attend the sprint but I can participate online :)
>
> Arf, it's too bad you can't be here. It would be real good if there 
> could be a way to have you live at least with sound (both directions), 
> ideally with video (at least from us to you).
I've a working Skype-setup so that shouldn't be a problem. Ideally we 
could record/broadcast so others could participate/inform themselfs too 
but I am not sure what Software to use for that :-/
>
>         Changetracking
>         --------------------
>         I'd like a brainstorm on how we proceed on change tracking.
>         The current state
>         leaves much to be desired.
>
>     Identify problems and put them into bugzilla? But yes, that will not
>     magically fix them. At least it would be a start and provide more
>     details what exactly still leaves much to be desired.
>
> Well, there are bugs/fundamental design restrictions (mostly related 
> to deleted stuff) and there is the odf1.1/1.2 tiny difference in spec.
Ah, interesting to know. That means that the sponsored work on getting 
change-tracking into Calligra brings fruits on the table cause it 
identifies points of weakness. A nice example why standards should be 
implemented in an open and libre community.


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    On 10/11/2011 01:44 PM, Pierre Stirnweiss wrote:
    <br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAOjaSmjAE7No+Gr2mh+LHAisdbzv+1YHaxp5LvfB8PHLsg4uCg@mail.gmail.com"
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        <blockquote>
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            <blockquote>
              kotext, textlayout, textshape, words division of
              responsibilities<br>
              ------------------------------
              ------------------------------ -----------------------<br>
              We should come up with a plan for how we want the code
              structured in the long<br>
              run. We've come a long way already, but we should discuss
              what further things<br>
              we can do.<br>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
          Long-term I would like to make it easy to extend Calligra
          Active with<br>
          editing capabilities. That means our libraries and the
          functionality<br>
          provided by Words can be reused for other UI's like the
          QML-based<br>
          Active-UI, an alternate desktop-UI (think of a kids interface
          or an<br>
          interface specialized on other use-cases or an interface for
          different<br>
          form factors or one for star trek fans or whatever crazy
          and/or<br>
          innovative things a developer likes to do build up with our<br>
          frameworks).<br>
          <div>
            <blockquote>
              KoTextEditor hacking<br>
              ---------------------------<br>
              I'd like a hacking session where we start extending the
              functionality of<br>
              KoTextEditor.<br>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
        <blockquote>
          What is the goal? I mean what exactly do we like to
          change/extend<br>
          in what direction? I ask cause that is not clear to me if it
          comes to<br>
          the concrete code. Maybe it's not defined yet what will be
          part of<br>
          the sprint-session?<br>
        </blockquote>
        <div><br>
          The above two points are on the agenda of the sprint in our
          brainstorm session about textshape/textlayout/kotext
          architecture. <br>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    Great to read :-)<br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAOjaSmjAE7No+Gr2mh+LHAisdbzv+1YHaxp5LvfB8PHLsg4uCg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div>
        <blockquote>
          I btw will not attend the sprint but I can participate online
          :)
          <div><br>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
        <div>Arf, it's too bad you can't be here. It would be real good
          if there could be a way to have you live at least with sound
          (both directions), ideally with video (at least from us to
          you). <br>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    I've a working Skype-setup so that shouldn't be a problem. Ideally
    we could record/broadcast so others could participate/inform
    themselfs too but I am not sure what Software to use for that :-/<br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAOjaSmjAE7No+Gr2mh+LHAisdbzv+1YHaxp5LvfB8PHLsg4uCg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div>
        <div>
        </div>
        <blockquote>
          <div>
            <blockquote>
              Changetracking<br>
              --------------------<br>
              I'd like a brainstorm on how we proceed on change
              tracking. The current state<br>
              leaves much to be desired.<br>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
          Identify problems and put them into bugzilla? But yes, that
          will not<br>
          magically fix them. At least it would be a start and provide
          more<br>
          details what exactly still leaves much to be desired.
          <div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
        <div>Well, there are bugs/fundamental design restrictions
          (mostly related to deleted stuff) and there is the odf1.1/1.2
          tiny difference in spec. <br>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    Ah, interesting to know. That means that the sponsored work on
    getting change-tracking into Calligra brings fruits on the table
    cause it identifies points of weakness. A nice example why standards
    should be implemented in an open and libre community.<br>
    <br>
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