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List:       calligra-devel
Subject:    Re: release schedule proposal
From:       Boudewijn Rempt <boud () valdyas ! org>
Date:       2011-02-07 10:21:31
Message-ID: 201102071121.31674.boud () valdyas ! org
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On Monday 07 February 2011, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:

> Extend the co-installability to the snapshots. What means Calligra not
> only can be co-installable with the GroupA-Office but also with the
> latest (or any) stable Calligra release. I see value in this and the
> effort at the side of packagers would be decreased.
> Technical means for this would be using either directory prefixes or
> file name prefixes.

It will be a lot of work... I don't see the value of it, especially if it means we \
need to do something to every snapshot. I want to get these snapshots out as soon as \
possible, with minimal effort that detracts from development.

> 
> Without this effort, we cannot expect many _real_ users of Calligra
> will test the snapshots: not everyone compiles by hand. And I see that
> many valuable testers won't. To move to the next level[tm] we could
> let users running the existing Calligra apps while _completely_
> independently testing the snapshot.

I expect distributions to package the snapshots and mark them as non-coinstallable \
with KOffice. Packaging isn't such a big job anymore, and their users will ask for \
the packages, if we get our publicity done. (Which we really suck at at the moment).

And once we have calligra in a state where we'll stop doing snapshots.

> A variant of this would be to find contributors (inside/outside) and
> provide unofficial repos for the packages that are co-installable.
> Then only the stable/beta/rc packages would be distributed using the
> standard channels. For example opensuse fanatics could use the suse's
> build facilities to deliver the snapshots.
> 
> I am not saying all or any of this is feasible with the current
> resources, since many of us would need to contribute...
> Looking forward to see what you think...

I really think it's not worth doing -- I don't care about co-installability with \
Thomas's project or KOffice 2.3.x and every new snapshot is an upgrade to the \
previous one, and the first real release an upgrade to the last snapshot.

It's a temporary system until we get the main apps good enough for users. And that's \
what we should focus on. Since I learned last week that it's not just Words that \
shouldn't be inflicted on anybody who wants to be productive...

-- 
Boudewijn Rempt | http://www.valdyas.org, http://www.krita.org
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