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List:       calligra-devel
Subject:    Re: tools docker etc in plan
From:       Pierre Stirnweiss <pstirnweiss () googlemail ! com>
Date:       2011-01-25 14:33:17
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On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Sven Langkamp <sven.langkamp@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Pierre Stirnweiss <
> pstirnweiss@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> To be honest, I think we should think a bit further. My impression (when I
>> was looking into tools/plugins loading mechanism for the (still unfinished)
>> change tracking tool) is that the system is very rigid and basically depends
>> on the developer knowing what plugins are there what plugins would be
>> usefull. There also is the case where some tools of one particular plugin
>> does not make sense (expl, the change tracking tool of the textshape plugin
>> doesn't make sense outside words, because odf does not foresee change
>> tracking outside a text document).
>> I think we should revisit how our plugins/tools are loaded and allow more
>> flexibility at runtime to set which are the plugins to be loaded (also by
>> users). After all, the whole point of the plugin system is to allow external
>> plugins to be designed. So there should be a way to set this up, other than
>> calligra core developpers explicitely allowing/disallowing plugins/tools.
>>
>
> Only plugins that flake loads by default should need to be blacklisted.
> Usually external developers shouldn't add plugins with that type. The change
> tracking tool could be loaded as Words plugin, just as the Krita tools that
> have the Krita/Tool plugin type.
>

The change tracking tool is (and up to now) need to be a tool of the
textshape, so as far as I understand the system, I can't load the textshape
without the change tracking tool. But maybe there is something I overlooked.

But in a more general way, is there a way for me (as a user) to let's say,
have the music shape enabled for words and not for stages? Can I change this
at run time?


Pierre

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Sven Langkamp <span \
dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sven.langkamp@gmail.com">sven.langkamp@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, \
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="gmail_quote"><div \
class="im">On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Pierre Stirnweiss <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a \
href="mailto:pstirnweiss@googlemail.com" \
target="_blank">pstirnweiss@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt \
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> To be honest, I think we should think a bit further. \
My impression (when I was looking into tools/plugins loading mechanism for the (still \
unfinished) change tracking tool) is that the system is very rigid and basically \
depends on the developer knowing what plugins are there what plugins would be \
usefull. There also is the case where some tools of one particular plugin does not \
make sense (expl, the change tracking tool of the textshape plugin doesn&#39;t make \
sense outside words, because odf does not foresee change tracking outside a text \
document).<br>


I think we should revisit how our plugins/tools are loaded and allow more flexibility \
at runtime to set which are the plugins to be loaded (also by users). After all, the \
whole point of the plugin system is to allow external plugins to be designed. So \
there should be a way to set this up, other than calligra core developpers \
explicitely allowing/disallowing plugins/tools.<br>

</blockquote></div><div><br>Only plugins that flake loads by default should need to \
be blacklisted. Usually external developers shouldn&#39;t add plugins with that type. \
The change tracking tool could be loaded as Words plugin, just as the Krita tools \
that have the Krita/Tool plugin type.<br> </div></div></blockquote><div><br>The \
change tracking tool is (and up to now) need to be a tool of the textshape, so as far \
as I understand the system, I can&#39;t load the textshape without the change \
tracking tool. But maybe there is something I overlooked.<br> <br>But in a more \
general way, is there a way for me (as a user) to let&#39;s say, have the music shape \
enabled for words and not for stages? Can I change this at run \
time?<br><br><br>Pierre<br> </div></div><br>



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