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Subject:    Re: [Beowulf] Nvidia and IBM create GPU interconnect for faster supercomputing
From:       Prentice Bisbal <prentice.bisbal () rutgers ! edu>
Date:       2014-04-02 0:34:25
Message-ID: 533B5B11.7010501 () rutgers ! edu
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I want to reply with a witty remark about American businesses and 
competition, but I just can't right now. Please think of one on your own 
and attribute it to me.

Prentice

On 04/01/2014 11:50 AM, Jörg Saßmannshausen wrote:
> Hi Prentice,
> 
> my wrong, I don't think in these ways. I was simply thinking about a wider
> market to the advantage of the users. I forget that companies see things
> differently. ;-)
> 
> All the best from a warm London
> 
> Jörg
> 
> On Tuesday 01 Apr 2014 16:38:54 Prentice Bisbal wrote:
> > On 03/30/2014 06:53 PM, Christopher Samuel wrote:
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> > > On 28/03/14 03:09, Jörg Saßmannshausen wrote:
> > > > However, the main question is: will that work with other chipsets
> > > > (Intel, AMD) as well or will that only work with the IBM chips?
> > > I guess given the IBM Lenovo deal IBM likely have no interest on their
> > > part, so I suppose it'll come down to whether Intel and/or AMD feel
> > > its worth their time investing in it.
> > > 
> > > Given that AMD and nVidia are both ARM licensees perhaps they may
> > > choose to go down that path to keep Intel out in the cold?
> > Why would IBM/NVIDIA want this to work with Intel/AMD chips? As a
> > business strategy, I think they want to compete with Intel/AMD in the
> > HPC market. Keeping this technology limited to IBM/NVIDIA collaborations
> > can give them a competitive advantage with Intel. Look at the advantage
> > IBM's networking gave the Blue Gene systems.
> > 
> > Besides, Intel has been buying up interconnect companies, so they're
> > probably working on their own competitor to this. Why would they want to
> > compete with their own products?
> > 
> > --
> > Prentice
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Prentice Bisbal
Manager of Information Technology
Rutgers Discovery Informatics Institute (RDI2)
Rutgers University
http://rdi2.rutgers.edu


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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I want to reply with a witty remark
      about American businesses and competition, but I just can't right
      now. Please think of one on your own and attribute it to me. <br>
      <br>
      Prentice<br>
      <br>
      On 04/01/2014 11:50 AM, J&ouml;rg Sa&szlig;mannshausen wrote:<br>
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      <pre wrap="">Hi Prentice,

my wrong, I don't think in these ways. I was simply thinking about a wider 
market to the advantage of the users. I forget that companies see things 
differently. ;-)

All the best from a warm London

J&ouml;rg

On Tuesday 01 Apr 2014 16:38:54 Prentice Bisbal wrote:
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On 28/03/14 03:09, J&ouml;rg Sa&szlig;mannshausen wrote:
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            <pre wrap="">However, the main question is: will that work with other \
chipsets (Intel, AMD) as well or will that only work with the IBM chips?
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I guess given the IBM Lenovo deal IBM likely have no interest on their
part, so I suppose it'll come down to whether Intel and/or AMD feel
its worth their time investing in it.

Given that AMD and nVidia are both ARM licensees perhaps they may
choose to go down that path to keep Intel out in the cold?
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        </blockquote>
        <pre wrap="">
Why would IBM/NVIDIA want this to work with Intel/AMD chips? As a
business strategy, I think they want to compete with Intel/AMD in the
HPC market. Keeping this technology limited to IBM/NVIDIA collaborations
can give them a competitive advantage with Intel. Look at the advantage
IBM's networking gave the Blue Gene systems.

Besides, Intel has been buying up interconnect companies, so they're
probably working on their own competitor to this. Why would they want to
compete with their own products?

--
Prentice
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Prentice Bisbal
Manager of Information Technology
Rutgers Discovery Informatics Institute (RDI2)
Rutgers University
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