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Subject:    Re: [asterisk-dev] Idle Timers and Keep-Alives
From:       André_Valentin <avalentin () marcant ! net>
Date:       2018-01-29 8:30:08
Message-ID: c523cffd-0996-4737-2e0f-3631f3c6c5f0 () marcant ! net
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Hi!

Please notice that such a TCP keepalive paket is often filtered by carrier-grade nat. \
So this would end in no keepalive packet for the client.

Kind regards,

André


Am 26.01.2018 um 10:58 schrieb marek cervenka:
> +1
> 
> 
> Dne 24/01/2018 v 21:50 George Joseph napsal(a):
> > So here's a proposal...
> > 
> > We remove BOTH pjproject and asterisk keep-alives.
> > We add the following parameters to pjsip transport:
> > 
> > tcp_keepalives = <boolean> ; turn on or off tcp keepalives
> > ; If tcp_keepalives = yes, the following parameters can be used to override the \
> > default kernel ; settings in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_(time,intvl,probes)
> > tcp_keepalive_time = <seconds> ; The number of seconds a connection can be idle \
> > before the first keepalive is sent. tcp_keepalive_interval = <seconds> ; Interval \
> > between keepalive probes. tcp_keepalive_probes = <number> ; Number of \
> > unacknowledged probes before a failure is reported. 
> > To preserve backward compatibility, the current  keep_alive_interval setting in \
> > pjsip.conf/global would turn tcp keepalives on for tcp and tls transports with \
> > both tcp_keepalive_time and tcp_keepalive_interval set to keep_alive_interval and \
> > tcp_keepalive_probes set to 2. 
> > One advantage of this is that wireshark captures will clearly show these as tcp \
> > keepalives even on a tls connection.     Another advantage is that we eliminate \
> > the competing keepalive mechanisms with their threading and locking baggage.
> > 
> > No code changes to pjproject would be required for this change.   We can turn off \
> > their keepalives in our config_site.h file.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Ross Beer <ross.beer@outlook.com \
> > <mailto:ross.beer@outlook.com>> wrote: 
> > Could the operating system manage this also, for example with the following:
> > 
> > sysctl.conf
> > 
> > net.ipv4.tcp_fin_timeout = 60
> > net.ipv4.tcp_retries1 = 3
> > net.ipv4.tcp_syn_retries = 5
> > 
> > # Keep TCP connections alive
> > net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_time = 300
> > net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_intvl = 60
> > net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_probes = 20
> > 
> > From a chan_pjsip point of view, it would receive notification that the \
> >                 underlying connection has closed.
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> > *From:* asterisk-dev-bounces@lists.digium.com \
> > <mailto:asterisk-dev-bounces@lists.digium.com> \
> > <asterisk-dev-bounces@lists.digium.com \
> > <mailto:asterisk-dev-bounces@lists.digium.com>> on behalf of Alexander Traud \
> >                 <pabstraud@compuserve.com <mailto:pabstraud@compuserve.com>>
> > *Sent:* 05 January 2018 15:44
> > *To:* Asterisk Developers Mailing List
> > *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-dev] Idle Timers and Keep-Alives
> > 
> > > Do we even WANT an idle timer?
> > 
> > I posted my concerns already in <http://gerrit.asterisk.org/6807 \
> > <http://gerrit.asterisk.org/6807>>: I have a device which crashes when it \
> > receives such a keepalive. I could live with a timer when Asterisk is not the \
> > registrar but registered somewhere else. But I do not _need_ that either. 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > -- 
> > George Joseph
> > Digium, Inc. | Software Developer
> > 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - US
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> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 

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