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Date: 2017-04-12 19:00:26
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CentOS 6 "Full Updates" support ends May 10th [1], after that "only
Security errata and select mission critical bug fixes will be
released". I think this combined with testing difficulties justifies
moving CentOS 6 into "extended" support for Asterisk. Probably worth
announcing to asterisk-users the OS versions that are no longer
automatically tested.
[1] https://wiki.centos.org/About/Product
On 04/12/2017 02:08 PM, Scott Griepentrog wrote:
> After testing with CentOS 6.8, I agree that it has become difficult to
> continue supporting it.
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 9:27 AM, George Joseph <gjoseph@digium.com
> <mailto:gjoseph@digium.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 7:22 AM, Scott Griepentrog
> <sgriepentrog@digium.com <mailto:sgriepentrog@digium.com>> wrote:
>
> I agree that 12.04 is old enough to not worry about
> supporting. Because of the widespread use of CentOS 6 as an
> Asterisk platform, I'd be concerned about abandoning it
> however. Which tests (beyond ODBC) are you having trouble with?
>
>
> Pretty much every rest_api test fails because of Python package
> issues. The last errors are related to txaio and twisted.
> The latest version of twisted to support python 2.6 is 14 which
> starts a cascade of package interdependencies that can only be
> resolved by using pip to install specific versions of things. I
> could probably get it to work but is it worth the time and effort
> to do so?
>
> These are the packages that have to be installed via pip just to
> get this far...
> alembic
> setuptools
> requests
> pyparsing
> urlparse3
> urllib3
> virtualenv
> virtualenv-clone
> virtualenvwrapper
> construct
> pep8
> autobahn
> service-identity
> construct==2.5.1
> Twisted==14
>
> Oh yeah, one of the packages we install from source (I think it's
> sipp but I forget) requires autoconf268 which is available via yum
> but it's a pain to get it to be used.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 7:45 AM, Joshua Colp <jcolp@digium.com
> <mailto:jcolp@digium.com>> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017, at 03:28 PM, George Joseph wrote:
> > Both CentOS 6 and Ubuntu 12 have fallen into the state
> where we can't
> > actually create a new instance of either that can run
> the Asterisk
> > Testsuite. In order to get it to work I've had to
> fiddle Python packages
> > both from the distributions' repositories and directly
> from pip which
> > makes
> > the Python environment fragile FrankenSnake. Also, ODBC
> packages from
> > that
> > era are unreliable so I've had to download and install
> both UnixODBC and
> > the postgresql ODBC drivers from source to get a working
> realtime setup.
> > Finally, the Ubuntu 12 ISO images contain an
> /etc/apt/sources.list that
> > no
> > longer works right out of the box.
> >
> > So what do you folks think the future of testing on
> CentOS 6 and Ubuntu
> > 12
> > should be?
>
> 12.04 is EOL so not testing it is fine to me. CentOS 6 I
> don't really
> have a comment on, I'm not in that ecosystem myself.
>
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<p>CentOS 6 "Full Updates" support ends May 10th [1], after that
"only Security errata and select mission critical bug fixes will
be released". I think this combined with testing difficulties
justifies moving CentOS 6 into "extended" support for Asterisk.
Probably worth announcing to asterisk-users the OS versions that
are no longer automatically tested.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/12/2017 02:08 PM, Scott
Griepentrog wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="color:#660000">After testing
with CentOS 6.8, I agree that it has become difficult to
continue supporting it.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 9:27 AM, George
Joseph <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gjoseph@digium.com" \
target="_blank">gjoseph@digium.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Wed, Apr 12,
2017 at 7:22 AM, Scott Griepentrog <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sgriepentrog@digium.com"
target="_blank">sgriepentrog@digium.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div style="color:rgb(102,0,0)">I agree that
12.04 is old enough to not worry about
supporting. Because of the widespread use of
CentOS 6 as an Asterisk platform, I'd be
concerned about abandoning it however. Which
tests (beyond ODBC) are you having trouble
with?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
</span>
<div>Pretty much every rest_api test fails because of
Python package issues. The last errors are related
to txaio and twisted.</div>
<div>The latest version of twisted to support python
2.6 is 14 which starts a cascade of package
interdependencies that can only be resolved by using
pip to install specific versions of things. I could
probably get it to work but is it worth the time and
effort to do so? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>These are the packages that have to be installed
via pip just to get this far...</div>
<div>
<div>alembic</div>
<div>setuptools</div>
<div>requests</div>
<div>pyparsing</div>
<div>urlparse3</div>
<div>urllib3</div>
<div>virtualenv</div>
<div>virtualenv-clone</div>
<div>virtualenvwrapper</div>
<div>construct</div>
<div>pep8</div>
<div>autobahn</div>
<div>service-identity</div>
<div>construct==2.5.1</div>
<div>Twisted==14</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Oh yeah, one of the packages we install from
source (I think it's sipp but I forget) requires
autoconf268 which is available via yum but it's a
pain to get it to be used.</div>
<div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 12,
2017 at 7:45 AM, Joshua Colp <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jcolp@digium.com"
target="_blank">jcolp@digium.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span>On
Tue, Apr 11, 2017, at 03:28 PM,
George Joseph wrote:<br>
> Both CentOS 6 and Ubuntu 12
have fallen into the state where we
can't<br>
> actually create a new instance
of either that can run the Asterisk<br>
> Testsuite. In order to get it
to work I've had to fiddle Python
packages<br>
> both from the distributions'
repositories and directly from pip
which<br>
> makes<br>
> the Python environment fragile
FrankenSnake. Also, ODBC packages
from<br>
> that<br>
> era are unreliable so I've had
to download and install both
UnixODBC and<br>
> the postgresql ODBC drivers
from source to get a working
realtime setup.<br>
> Finally, the Ubuntu 12 ISO
images contain an
/etc/apt/sources.list that<br>
> no<br>
> longer works right out of the
box.<br>
><br>
> So what do you folks think the
future of testing on CentOS 6 and
Ubuntu<br>
> 12<br>
> should be?<br>
<br>
</span>12.04 is EOL so not testing it
is fine to me. CentOS 6 I don't really<br>
have a comment on, I'm not in that
ecosystem myself.<br>
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