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Subject: R: R: R: R: R: Message quarantined as SPAM
From: Scappatura Rocco <Rocco.Scappatura () infracom ! it>
Date: 2017-07-20 13:58:43
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Hello.
Thank you for the anwer. $sa_tag_level_deflt is already set to 2.0. Here the headers \
of the message relative the score:
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on av9.infracom.it
X-Spam-Level: *
X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=BASE64_LENGTH_79_INF,BAYES_00,
HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,MISSING_MIME_HB_SEP,
MPART_ALT_DIFF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_PASS,
TO_NO_BRKTS_HTML_IMG,T_REMOTE_IMAGE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
version=3.4.0
Delivered-To: spam-quarantine
X-Envelope-To: <iagrossi@example.net<mailto:iagrossi@example.net>>
X-Envelope-To-Blocked: <iagrossi@example.net<mailto:iagrossi@example.net>>
X-Quarantine-ID: <BknEtFAN2Yh1>
X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Non-encoded non-ASCII data (and not UTF-8)
(char B0 hex): Subject: Annullamento Ordine n\x{B0} 217026098 del
[...]
So the thing to be clarified is the difference between the âscore' reported by \
spamassassin (and X-Spam-Status header) and the Hits reported by the amavisd log.
Could someone explain the difference?
Regards,
RS
Da: amavis-users [mailto:amavis-users-bounces+rocco.scappatura=infracom.it@amavis.org] \
Per conto di Dominic Raferd
Inviato: giovedì 20 luglio 2017 07:18
A: amavis-users@amavis.org
Oggetto: Re: R: R: R: R: Message quarantined as SPAM
You can set $sa_tag_level_deflt (different from $sa_tag2_level_deflt) to lower level \
- mails with scores above $sa_tag_level_deflt will have spam info header added; this \
header shows how amavis has calculated the score.
On 19 July 2017 at 14:02, Scappatura Rocco \
<Rocco.Scappatura@infracom.it<mailto:Rocco.Scappatura@infracom.it>> wrote: Thank you \
for the answer.
Yes, you are right. Anyway I set â$sa_kill_level_deflt = 6.31' too in amavis \
configuration.
I could agree for the differnce of the score of the message assigned by amavis and \
the score of the SA test of the quarantined message..
But, I would like to understand why amavis assigns a so high score (7.946) to a \
harmless message ..
Regards,
RS
Da: amavis-users [mailto:amavis-users-bounces+rocco.scappatura<mailto:amavis-users-bounces%2Brocco.scappatura>=infracom.it@amavis.org<mailto:infracom.it@amavis.org>] \
Per conto di Dominic Raferd
Inviato: mercoledì 19 luglio 2017 14:28
A: amavis-users@amavis.org<mailto:amavis-users@amavis.org>
Oggetto: Re: R: R: R: R: Message quarantined as SPAM
On 19 July 2017 at 12:56, Scappatura Rocco \
<Rocco.Scappatura@infracom.it<mailto:Rocco.Scappatura@infracom.it>> wrote: Hello.
Even after the changes done to the amavis configuration, I still notice that some \
messages has been blocked as SPAM. For example:
Jul 18 12:04:55 zzz amavis[18242]: (18242-14) Blocked SPAM \
{DiscardedInbound,Quarantined}, [195.245.231.137]:39849 [193.67.127.189] \
<orderfleet@example.org<mailto:orderfleet@example.org>> -> \
<iagrossi@example.net<mailto:iagrossi@example.net>>, quarantine: \
B/spam-BknEtFAN2Yh1.gz, Queue-ID: 31099D5C4B, Message-ID: \
<OF2B08DA46.86F90238-ON80258161.003760D6@leaseplancorp.net<mailto:OF2B08DA46.86F90238-ON80258161.003760D6@leaseplancorp.net>>, \
mail_id: BknEtFAN2Yh1, Hits: 7.946, size: 170434, 551 ms
while the score I get while testing the messages is much lower that \
$sa_tag2_level_deflt (1.9 < 6.31): â...
Where is the problem? Why the message is tagged as SPAM and quarantined?
âIt is not $sa_tag2_level_deflt that determines whether message is quarantined, \
this only determines whether to add 'spam detected' headers in the emails.
Score above $sa_kill_level_defltâ triggers evasive action (i.e. according to \
$spam_quarantine_method).
Also I am not sure you can rely on getting same spam calculation when you re-test a \
quarantined email as when it arrives from outside, perhaps this is why header shows \
score of 7.946 but retest only 1.9?
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class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span \
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thank \
you for the anwer. $sa_tag_level_deflt is already set to 2.0. Here the headers of \
the message relative the score:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>X-Spam-Checker-Version: \
SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on av9.infracom.it<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>X-Spam-Level: \
*<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>X-Spam-Status: \
No, score=1.9 required=5.0 \
tests=BASE64_LENGTH_79_INF,BAYES_00,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> \
HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,MISSING_MIME_HB_SEP,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> \
MPART_ALT_DIFF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_PASS,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> \
TO_NO_BRKTS_HTML_IMG,T_REMOTE_IMAGE autolearn=no \
autolearn_force=no<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> \
version=3.4.0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Delivered-To: \
spam-quarantine<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>X-Envelope-To: \
<<a href="mailto:iagrossi@example.net" target="_blank"><span \
style='color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none'>iagrossi@example.net</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>X-Envelope-To-Blocked: \
<<a href="mailto:iagrossi@example.net" target="_blank"><span \
style='color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none'>iagrossi@example.net</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>X-Quarantine-ID: \
<BknEtFAN2Yh1><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>X-Amavis-Alert: \
BAD HEADER SECTION, Non-encoded non-ASCII data (and not \
UTF-8)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> \
(char B0 hex): Subject: Annullamento Ordine n\x{B0} 217026098 \
del<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> \
[...]<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>So \
the thing to be clarified is the difference between the ‘score’ reported by \
spamassassin (and X-Spam-Status header) and the Hits reported by the amavisd \
log.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Could \
someone explain the difference?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>RS<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div \
style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div \
style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p \
class=MsoNormal><b><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Da:</span></b><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> amavis-users \
[mailto:amavis-users-bounces+rocco.scappatura=infracom.it@amavis.org] <b>Per conto di \
</b>Dominic Raferd<br><b>Inviato:</b> giovedì 20 luglio 2017 07:18<br><b>A:</b> \
amavis-users@amavis.org<br><b>Oggetto:</b> Re: R: R: R: R: Message quarantined as \
SPAM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>You can \
set $sa_tag_level_deflt (different from $sa_tag2_level_deflt) to lower \
level - mails with scores above $sa_tag_level_deflt will have spam info header added; \
this header shows how amavis has calculated the score.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 19 July 2017 at \
14:02, Scappatura Rocco <<a href="mailto:Rocco.Scappatura@infracom.it" \
target="_blank">Rocco.Scappatura@infracom.it</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote \
style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm \
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal \
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thank you for \
the answer.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal \
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Yes, you are \
right. Anyway I set ‘$sa_kill_level_deflt = 6.31’ too in amavis \
configuration.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal \
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I could agree \
for the differnce of the score of the message assigned by amavis and the score of the \
SA test of the quarantined message..</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal \
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>But, I would \
like to understand why amavis assigns a so high score (</span>7.946<span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>) to a \
harmless message ..</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal \
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>RS</span><o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div \
style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div \
style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Da:</span></b><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> amavis-users [mailto:<a \
href="mailto:amavis-users-bounces%2Brocco.scappatura" \
target="_blank">amavis-users-bounces+rocco.scappatura</a>=<a \
href="mailto:infracom.it@amavis.org" target="_blank">infracom.it@amavis.org</a>] \
<b>Per conto di </b>Dominic Raferd<br><b>Inviato:</b> mercoledì 19 luglio 2017 \
14:28<br><span class=gmail-><b>A:</b> <a href="mailto:amavis-users@amavis.org" \
target="_blank">amavis-users@amavis.org</a></span><br><span \
class=gmail-><b>Oggetto:</b> Re: R: R: R: R: Message quarantined as \
SPAM</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal \
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On 19 July \
2017 at 12:56, Scappatura Rocco <<a href="mailto:Rocco.Scappatura@infracom.it" \
target="_blank">Rocco.Scappatura@infracom.it</a>> \
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid \
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm \
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hello.<br><br>Even \
after the changes done to the amavis configuration, I still notice that some messages \
has been blocked as SPAM. For example:<br><br>Jul 18 12:04:55 zzz amavis[18242]: \
(18242-14) Blocked SPAM {DiscardedInbound,Quarantined}, [195.245.231.137]:39849 \
[193.67.127.189] <<a href="mailto:orderfleet@example.org" \
target="_blank">orderfleet@example.org</a>> -> <<a \
href="mailto:iagrossi@example.net" target="_blank">iagrossi@example.net</a>>, \
quarantine: B/spam-BknEtFAN2Yh1.gz, Queue-ID: 31099D5C4B, Message-ID: <<a \
href="mailto:OF2B08DA46.86F90238-ON80258161.003760D6@leaseplancorp.net" \
target="_blank">OF2B08DA46.86F90238-ON80258161.003760D6@leaseplancorp.net</a>>, \
mail_id: BknEtFAN2Yh1, Hits: 7.946, size: 170434, 551 ms<br><br>while the score I get \
while testing the messages is much lower that $sa_tag2_level_deflt (1.9 < \
6.31):<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal \
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>...<o:p></o:p></p></div><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br><br>Where \
is the problem? Why the message is tagged as SPAM and \
quarantined?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal \
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It is not \
$sa_tag2_level_deflt that determines whether message is quarantined, this only \
determines whether to add 'spam detected' headers in the \
emails.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal \
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Score \
above $sa_kill_level_deflt triggers evasive action (i.e. according to \
$spam_quarantine_method).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal \
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Also I am \
not sure you can rely on getting same spam calculation when you re-test a quarantined \
email as when it arrives from outside, perhaps this is why header shows score of \
7.946 but retest only \
1.9?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>
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