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Subject: Re: New experimental toolbar by Thomas Luebking
From: Lee Olson <leetolson () gmail ! com>
Date: 2010-01-31 20:07:01
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Attached is a different type of idea for the next / previous track buttons.
- Lee
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Dan Meltzer
<parallelgrapefruit@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Thomas L=FCbking <thomas.luebking@web.d=
e>
> wrote:
> > I'm no fan of either version :-\
> >
> > - In general this triggers a misuse (users _will_ try to point and clic=
k
> the
> > tiny icons (esp. with the second attempt) run a usertest if you don't
> trust me
> > ;-)
> >
> > - Ericos original suggestion somehow "breaks" the horizontal layout.
> >
> > - Both introduce at least one "inverted" "icon next to text" toolbutton=
s
> what
> > looks weird.
> >
> > - Also this interferes with the drag feature (esp. those sunken icons)
> >
> > If we can skip the hook-arrows, i've attached a mock for a different
> direction
> > (but i think we'd also need to adjust the look of the progress slider t=
o
> get
> > the entire area back less "heavy" - i'f you're interested, i'll impleme=
nt
> this
> > and seek for a "lighter" slider appearance)
>
> My objection to this mockup is that it looks more like super stylized
> tabs instead of buttons. I would not expect from looking at those
> items on screen that I should press them to change the track. I don't
> know what I'd expect them to do, but I don't think it improves
> anything.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Thomas
> >
> > Am Sunday 31 January 2010 schrieb Mark Kretschmann:
> >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Edward Hades <edward.hades@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Mark Kretschmann <
> kretschmann@kde.org>
> > wrote:
> >> >> See
> >> >> Enrico's attached screenshot, I think it makes a big difference in
> >> >> usability and discoverability.
> >> >
> >> > How about moving arrows outerer?
> >>
> >> This looks nice, but I think it might introduce a subtle ambiguity:
> >>
> >> The arrows appear to point to something at the borders. With Enrico's
> >> version, they "pointed at" the actual track that would be played. So I
> >> think Enrico's version might be slightly better, usability wise.
> >>
> >
> >
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Attached is a different type of idea for the next / previous track buttons.<br><br>- \
Lee<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Dan Meltzer \
<span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:parallelgrapefruit@gmail.com">parallelgrapefruit@gmail.com</a>></span> \
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); \
margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 \
at 12:54 PM, Thomas Lübking <<a \
href="mailto:thomas.luebking@web.de">thomas.luebking@web.de</a>> wrote:<br>
> I'm no fan of either version :-\<br>
><br>
> - In general this triggers a misuse (users _will_ try to point and click the<br>
> tiny icons (esp. with the second attempt) run a usertest if you don't trust \
me<br> > ;-)<br>
><br>
> - Ericos original suggestion somehow "breaks" the horizontal \
layout.<br> ><br>
> - Both introduce at least one "inverted" "icon next to text" \
toolbuttons what<br> > looks weird.<br>
><br>
> - Also this interferes with the drag feature (esp. those sunken icons)<br>
><br>
> If we can skip the hook-arrows, i've attached a mock for a different \
direction<br> > (but i think we'd also need to adjust the look of the progress \
slider to get<br> > the entire area back less "heavy" - i'f \
you're interested, i'll implement this<br> > and seek for a \
"lighter" slider appearance)<br> <br>
</div>My objection to this mockup is that it looks more like super stylized<br>
tabs instead of buttons. I would not expect from looking at those<br>
items on screen that I should press them to change the track. I don't<br>
know what I'd expect them to do, but I don't think it improves<br>
anything.<br>
<div class="im">><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Thomas<br>
><br>
> Am Sunday 31 January 2010 schrieb Mark Kretschmann:<br>
>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Edward Hades <<a \
href="mailto:edward.hades@gmail.com">edward.hades@gmail.com</a>><br> > \
wrote:<br> >> > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Mark Kretschmann <<a \
href="mailto:kretschmann@kde.org">kretschmann@kde.org</a>><br> > wrote:<br>
>> >> See<br>
>> >> Enrico's attached screenshot, I think it makes a big difference \
in<br> >> >> usability and discoverability.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > How about moving arrows outerer?<br>
>><br>
>> This looks nice, but I think it might introduce a subtle ambiguity:<br>
>><br>
>> The arrows appear to point to something at the borders. With \
Enrico's<br> >> version, they "pointed at" the actual track that \
would be played. So I<br> >> think Enrico's version might be slightly \
better, usability wise.<br> >><br>
><br>
><br>
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