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Subject: Amarok menu organiztion on the mac
From: "Big O" <illogical1 () gmail ! com>
Date: 2008-03-20 17:33:56
Message-ID: 797cc39c0803201033l75cbe856ybf16db96b8d70981 () mail ! gmail ! com
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OK, I realize this is going to require some explaining so bear with me for a
while.
On OS X all application menus live in the menubar. It's the thin bar along
the top of the screen in all those OS X screenshots you see. All
applications also have what is referred to as the "Application menu" and
then the actual menu entries for the application.
The "Application menu" gets it's name from the name of the app it is
displaying. In the case of Amarok this results in duplicate menu items named
"Amarok".
Amarok Amarok Playlist Mode Tools Settings Help
is the resulting menu setup. Quite confusing. To rectify this I've renamed
the second Amarok entry Playback, as it refers to entries that have to do
with playback. This gives us
Amarok Playback Playlist Mode Tools Settings Help
The Mode menu entry only has two items, and honestly doesn't really make
much sense all by itself (Mode of what?) so I removed the playback mode
entries, and put them in the Playback menu. The result is now
Amarok Playback Playlist Tools Settings Help
The Application menu (labelled Amarok by the OS) also has some standard
entries. One of these standard entries is the Preferences. Qt, through some
string replacement black magic takes Settings -> Configure Amarok... and
converts it to Amarok -> Preferences. This does two things. First it puts
the entry in a location where OS X users expect there application
preferences to be, second it gives it a shortcut that OS X users know will
automatically take them to the applications preferences.
It also inadvertently leaves only one entry remaining in the Settings menu.
I've tried to play around with the code and put it somewhere in the Amarok
menu, but I can't find a way to control where it appears. I also see in the
code that there might possibly be other entries that should be in the
Settings menu, so I just left it alone. So I went from
Amarok Playback Playlist Tools Help
which you'll see in the screenshots back to
Amarok Playback Playlist Tools Settings Help
The one things that is left outstanding is whether or not to include a
"Window" menu entry. This is required by Apple HIG and contains required
entries such as Minimize, Zoom (basically Maximize) and allows access to
other window which may be opened up by the application. The problem with
this is that those entries in Amarok already have a menu. It's called Tools.
Personally I'm ambivalent on the following of the HIG. But if we want to
properly integrate into OS X, i think it's something we should do.
These images show how Amarok would look if I got rid of the Settings menu
and put the remaining entry into the Amarok menu. Bad Idea methinks.
http://illogic-al.org/images/screenshots/Picture%203.png
This one shows the proposed contents of the Playback menu (bye bye "Mode")
http://illogic-al.org/images/screenshots/Picture%204.png
These show the remaining menus
Playlist: http://illogic-al.org/images/screenshots/Picture%205.png
Tools: http://illogic-al.org/images/screenshots/Picture%206.png
Help: http://illogic-al.org/images/screenshots/Picture%207.png
My question to you is: Are the proposed changes acceptable?
Those changes being:
Leaving the Settings menu with (currently) one entry
Renaming the Amarok menu entry to Playback.
Adding the entries from the Mode menu to the Playback menu.
--
All your gmail are belong to us.
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; ">OK, \
I realize this is going to require some explaining so bear with me for a while.<br>On \
OS X all application menus live in the menubar. It's the thin bar along the top \
of the screen in all those OS X screenshots you see. All applications also have what \
is referred to as the "Application menu" and then the actual menu entries \
for the application.<br> The "Application menu" gets it's name from the \
name of the app it is displaying. In the case of Amarok this results in duplicate \
menu items named "Amarok".<br><br>Amarok Amarok \
Playlist Mode Tools Settings \
Help<br> <br>is the resulting menu setup. Quite confusing. To rectify \
this I've renamed the second Amarok entry Playback, as it refers to entries that \
have to do with playback. This gives us<br><br>Amarok Playback \
Playlist Mode Tools Settings \
Help<br> <br>The Mode menu entry only has two items, and honestly \
doesn't really make much sense all by itself (Mode of what?) so I removed the \
playback mode entries, and put them in the Playback menu. The result is now<br><br> \
Amarok Playback Playlist Tools \
Settings Help<br><br>The Application menu (labelled Amarok by \
the OS) also has some standard entries. One of these standard entries is the \
Preferences. Qt, through some string replacement black magic takes Settings \
-> Configure Amarok... and converts it to Amarok -> Preferences. This does two \
things. First it puts the entry in a location where OS X users expect there \
application preferences to be, second it gives it a shortcut that OS X users know \
will automatically take them to the applications preferences.<br> It also \
inadvertently leaves only one entry remaining in the Settings menu. I've tried to \
play around with the code and put it somewhere in the Amarok menu, but I can't \
find a way to control where it appears. I also see in the code that there might \
possibly be other entries that should be in the Settings menu, so I just left it \
alone. So I went from<br> <br>Amarok Playback Playlist \
Tools Help<br><br>which you'll see in the screenshots \
back to<br><br>Amarok Playback Playlist \
Tools Settings Help<br><br>The one things that is \
left outstanding is whether or not to include a "Window" menu entry. This \
is required by Apple HIG and contains required entries such as Minimize, Zoom \
(basically Maximize) and allows access to other window which may be opened up by the \
application. The problem with this is that those entries in Amarok already have \
a menu. It's called Tools.<br> Personally I'm ambivalent on the following of \
the HIG. But if we want to properly integrate into OS X, i think it's something \
we should do.<br><br>These images show how Amarok would look if I got rid of the \
Settings menu and put the remaining entry into the Amarok menu. Bad Idea \
methinks.<br> <a href="http://illogic-al.org/images/screenshots/Picture%203.png">http://illogic-al.org/images/screenshots/Picture%203.png</a><br><br>This \
one shows the proposed contents of the Playback menu (bye bye \
"Mode")<br> <a \
href="http://illogic-al.org/images/screenshots/Picture%204.png">http://illogic-al.org/images/screenshots/Picture%204.png</a><br><br>These \
show the remaining menus<br>Playlist: <a \
href="http://illogic-al.org/images/screenshots/Picture%205.png">http://illogic-al.org/images/screenshots/Picture%205.png</a><br>
Tools: <a \
href="http://illogic-al.org/images/screenshots/Picture%206.png">http://illogic-al.org/images/screenshots/Picture%206.png</a><br>Help: \
<a href="http://illogic-al.org/images/screenshots/Picture%207.png">http://illogic-al.org/images/screenshots/Picture%207.png</a><br>
<br><br>My question to you is: Are the proposed changes acceptable?<br>Those changes \
being:<br>Leaving the Settings menu with (currently) one entry<br>Renaming the Amarok \
menu entry to Playback.<br>Adding the entries from the Mode menu to the Playback \
menu.</span><br clear="all"> <br>-- <br>All your gmail are belong to us.
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